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Rod Haney
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:11 am    Post subject: Which current trumpet makers will do a solid silver bell? Reply with quote

I assume it would be custom. I know it will be costly but I am looking for makers to do one, can anyone help?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schilke lists Sterling silver bells as an option
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Sorry hand made silver bells not electro formed Reply with quote

Wand a hand done bell out of sheet silver
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:34 am    Post subject: Sorry hand made silver bells not electro formed Reply with quote

Wand a hand done bell out of sheet silver
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't all-silver bells really really dark sounding? I've known a few people who have gotten Sterling bells on horns, but they wound up flipping the horn for one reason or other.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

King made their Silversonic trumpet and cornet Sterling silver bells from sheet and still make their 2B trombone Sterling silver bells from sheet.

Both Bach and Schilke 99.9% pure silver bells are electro-formed, same as Conn Coprion and Schilke beryllium-copper bells.

We have access to both Bach and Schilke bells.

The MSRP for a Bach bell only is $2631.96 for a 37 Sterling Plus, $1851.99 for a 43 Sterling Plus and $2217.99 for a 72 Sterling Plus.

A Schilke pure silver tuning bell retails for $1635.00.

No matter which you choose, it's going to be pricey.

FWIW I know a trumpet player that has an extra Schilke S42L-JF #2 99.9% pure silver tuning bell he'd like to exchange for a #2 brass tuning bell. Or he'll sell it outright. PM me if interested.

I hope this is helpful.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know which bell you want or would prefer? Do you have a horn already in mind to have the horn put on like a "tuning bell" style so you can switch bells around?

It's one thing to find a manufacturer like Bach, Schilke, Adams, Schagerl, or Kanstul that can build you a custom bell in that material, but that's only part of it right? I mean do you want one of Bach's bell shapes or Besson, or an older Martín or King or what? Do you have something specific in mind, because that will narrow your selection options as well. The manufacturer will have to have a mandrel to even make the bell shape you want before considering what material is used to make it.

I've owned a few different sterling bells and I can't quite put my finger on it the sound is dark or bright. It is different and they can be loud. Why do you want or what are you hoping to achieve with sterling?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adams makes handspun Sterling silver bells that are incredible. two of my horns have them worth every penny!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrentAustin wrote:
Adams makes handspun Sterling silver bells that are incredible. two of my horns have them worth every penny!

Do they sell separately or as a component. I am looking for a 5" rimless bell obviously 2 piece. Specs for tail and wrap can be specified. Looking for a ballpark on just the bell, the builder of the horn is already specified. This will be a fixed bell horn.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rod Haney wrote:
TrentAustin wrote:
Adams makes handspun Sterling silver bells that are incredible. two of my horns have them worth every penny!

Do they sell separately or as a component. I am looking for a 5" rimless bell obviously 2 piece. Specs for tail and wrap can be specified. Looking for a ballpark on just the bell, the builder of the horn is already specified. This will be a fixed bell horn.
Thanks,
Rod


Not sure. Contact them at info@adams.nl directly for more info.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that one of the Hub Van Laar trumpets in the Oiram line
has a silver bell, too. Check their website. Good Luck
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rod Haney wrote:
I am looking for a 5" rimless bell


Now that would be a first I've never seen. The Conn Vocabells were made in two pieces with a much thicker flair than stem to provide greater strength. If a bell like this could be made to order I'd be VERY careful with it since it would be more susceptible to damage. Let us know how you make out. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save your money and purchase a used King Silvertone, Silversonic, or Symphony with the optional solid sterling bell. They have all the tone and intonation of any new custom high-dollar instrument. Plus, some models even had the matching solid sterling lead pipe, like the solid sterling neck on some Zephyr and Super 20 saxophones, and that also lends itself to solid tone.

Having been the custodian of my Uncle's Silvertone cornet for many years until my cousin finally expressed interest in it, I can tell you that to my ears, the tone is not darker, but bigger.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:50 am    Post subject: silver bell trumpet Reply with quote

The Van Laar B8 trumpet has what is called a a 925 sterling silver bell, check it out on the web!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anderson's makes electro-formed silver bells. They come straight and rimless. You would then need a technician to ball out the tail and bend.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give Shires a call. I know they just did a silver trombone bell out of a solid sheet of silver.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vaguely recall that Getzen makes one of their premier models with a sterling silver bell.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HornnOOb wrote:
I vaguely recall that Getzen makes one of their premier models with a sterling silver bell.


There is a version of the 900 Eterna with a sterling bell (made from sheet silver). I don't know if they are currently available. They do show up on EBAY occasionally.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had the Van Laar 8.1 Sterling 925, not with a reverse leadpipe, for over a year now and love it! It is everything they described it to be. It fits in so many different situations from shows to wedding bands to orchestral. Really good horn.
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