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Louise Finch
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Without looking, I can’t remember how or where the model number is marked, but I would have thought that YCR-8335GS would be marked, possibly on the valve block.
What have you got on yours?
Many thanks
Edit: I’m sure that the model number is on the right side of the valve block, on the 2nd valve casing.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| It’s in the valve block. |
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Louise Finch
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| kerouack wrote: | | It’s in the valve block. |
Thanks very much. Do you have the yellow brass belled model in lacquer? If not, how is yours marked?
Many thanks
Lou
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Louise Finch
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I've just got home and checked my Neo. Like I thought, it is marked YCR8335 on the 2nd valve casing.
Both my Xeno, Neo and Xeno II trumpet are all yellow brass belled models in lacquer, but I have a feeling that my YTR-6335HGII trumpet, was marked as such, or at least as YTR-6335HG, but I sold it years ago and can't remember.
Take care and best wishes
Lou
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Louise Finch
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I've been searching on Google images to see whether the gold brass belled versions have a G on the bell, and haven't been able to see the serial number.
Finally I have found this one:
https://music-centre.ch/product/cornet-sib-yamaha-neo-ycr8335g/
This has a G on the end.
RandyTX, you say that the paperwork that came with your Neo give the model number as YCR-8335GS 02. What please is marked on the 2nd valve casing?
Many thanks
Lou
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RandyTX
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It took me a while to get back to you on this, because I was traveling and didn't have the horn with me.
Technically, it's a GS02 on the papers (and the Yamaha EU website, doesn't appear at all in the US)...
On the valve block, just above the serial number, it says YCR-8335G. No reference there to the 'silver' plate, or any '2nd gen' or whatever the 02 really stands for. I didn't notice the G the first time I looked at it, mainly because I needed good light to make out the G on the end, and it was sort of wrapped 'around' the valve casing a bit.
The bell engraving doesn't appear to indicate material for the bell in any way... just the yamaha logo, a rather large 'NEO' engraving, and "Established in 1887" underneath.
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Louise Finch
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| RandyTX wrote: | It took me a while to get back to you on this, because I was traveling and didn't have the horn with me.
Hi RandyTX
No worries at all.
Technically, it's a GS02 on the papers (and the Yamaha EU website, doesn't appear at all in the US)...
Thank you very much.
On the valve block, just above the serial number, it says YCR-8335G. No reference there to the 'silver' plate, or any '2nd gen' or whatever the 02 really stands for.
My Xeno II trumpet doesn't have a II after the model number. It says just YTR-8335. I believe that all Xeno IIs are like this, but mine is a very early one, and was an ex-demo. The serial number suggests that it should be a Xeno I, but it has all the Xeno II features. I wondered if it could have a Xeno I valve block owing to the serial number, but I contacted Yamaha via the Yamaha Music London store, and they confirmed that mine is a Xeno II in all regards despite the serial number.
My Neo is marked YCR-8335 on the valve block. I do not have any of the paperwork that came with it, as I bought it used. All I have is the model number and serial number on the welcome pack that came from the retailer.
Like I said previously, my guess is that the 02 designation just means Neo as opposted to Xeno, as the Xeno was also a YCR-8335.
I've never upgraded my flute, although I probably should have done years ago as I play flute to a pretty high amateur standard, definitely well beyond the usual upgrade standard, and my flute is a YFL-211S and marked as such.
YFL-211S (see 5th picture for model number):
https://londonflutes.co.uk/shop/flutes/yamaha-yfl-211s-flute/?gclid=CjwKCAiA9ourBhAVEiwA3L5RFj4mo-4d_d2I-MxJ5Qk-qQK5FmX5iUjRWTNFuvWKOkZiGxt0tjBnKBoCMoYQAvD_BwE
Yamaha used to make a nickel-plated I believe YFL-211N:
https://www.musicdirectlimited.co.uk/yamaha-yfl-211n-flute.html
Yamaha also marked the II on the headjoint of the 2nd generation YFL-211SII (see 2nd picture):
https://londonflutes.co.uk/shop/flutes/yamaha-yfl-211sii-flute-2/?gclid=CjwKCAiA9ourBhAVEiwA3L5RFiErOuATPm4IFqi62eMDm3Q-BmuJ4HCp17gBY6FNRmYljsGaees7cxoCnVEQAvD_BwE
I didn't notice the G the first time I looked at it, mainly because I needed good light to make out the G on the end, and it was sort of wrapped 'around' the valve casing a bit.
I thought that you should have a G on the valve block to denote the gold brass bell. Maybe the S for silver-plate is not marked. I haven't got a silver-plated Yamaha, so don't know. Years ago, I had a Yamaha Maestro cornet, and that had YCR-6335HUK I believe on the bell, but that was a long time ago. I don't think there was any S to designate that it was silver-plated.
The bell engraving doesn't appear to indicate material for the bell in any way... just the yamaha logo, a rather large 'NEO' engraving, and "Established in 1887" underneath.
That's normal I believe. My understanding is that Yamaha indicate a gold brass bell on the end of the model number on the valve block, not on the bell.
Take care and best wishes
Lou
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