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JeffM729 Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 444 Location: Parrish, FL
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:39 pm Post subject: Wick 4B & 4BW Cornet Mouthpiece Question |
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Current my setup is a Wick 4B on a Getzen Custom 3850 cornet. The rim is narrow with a really sharp edge like a Bach, but the sound is really fine. I'm looking to get a wider rim with a more rounded bite. Does the 4BW also have the same sharp bite?
Also, does anyone know of an alternative cornet British band type mouthpiece in the .640/16.25 mm inner diameter that would met the above criteria? |
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TKSop Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Posts: 1735 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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The 4BW has the same basic rim shape - it's on the flat side with a squarish outside shoulder and likewise on the inside... I find it horrible for endurance and flexibility, but to each their own.
As to the second question...
Yes, I can give you a good recommendation in that sort of size, in fact I can give you a few:
1) Curry 8.5BBC - nice rounded profile, not too narrow and not too bitey.
2) GR Technologies - model 64 cornet #7.
The Curry is much cheaper and plays very similarly - I wouldn't bother spending the extra for the GR unless you play GR already and want to keep exactly the same rim. |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2671 Location: Anacortes, WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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I remember comparing the Curry and the GR years ago. I had both mouthpieces and found them quite different. The GR was, like the GR trumpet mouthpiece I had, really something special. Both were very easy to play with a great response. Why didn't I stay with the GRs? Something was missing in the sound. It was a lack of richness and depth that I found with the Wick mouthpieces.
The Curry BBC, oft touted here, but never did it work for me. It always felt, and still does feel, stuffy. Something just didn't work with the Curry. Odd, since I have may Curry mouthpieces and they all work really well. The BBC is the only one that didn't work for me. I also never found the sound anything special. It was not bright, not dark, not really much of anything, just middle of the road.
Another option is the Yamaha E series. Amazing sound and much easier to play that the Wicks. The question is will it work for your cornet. They are not expensive. I've got a bunch of them. _________________ Richard
Today's Trumpet: 1937 Cleveland Toreador
Today's Cornet: York Eminence
Today's Mouthpieces: Cleveland T and C |
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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For me, both 4B Heritage and 4BW Heritage are much more comfortable and less tiring on lips than comparable non-W classic Denis Wick versions. Neither of these two has a sharp rim. |
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Bájoc Music Regular Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2023 Posts: 49 Location: Portland, MI
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Wick 4B & 4BW Cornet Mouthpiece Question |
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JeffM729 wrote: | My current setup is a Wick 4B on a Getzen Custom 3850 cornet. The rim is narrow with a sharp edge like a Bach, but the sound is fine. I'm looking to get a wider rim with a more rounded bite. Does the 4BW also have the same sharp bite?
Also, does anyone know of an alternative cornet British band type mouthpiece in the .640/16.25 mm inner diameter that would meet the above criteria? |
Under my Bájoc mouthpiece lineup, I have two different design offerings of BB cornet mouthpieces: "Brass Band Cornet", and "Brass Band Cornet II".
https://bajocmusic.com/product/bajoc-bb-cornet-mouthpiece/
https://bajocmusic.com/product/bajoc-bb-ii-cornet-mouthpiece/
I have a few different sizes readily available for both models in the 0.660"-0.675" range (more popular sizes), but I can easily put together a 0.640" inner cup diameter version. I have done that before for customers who have asked, and the design is still the same (comfortable rim, efficient cup and backbore configuration, great response, and nice warm "BBB" tone) but with a smaller inner cup diameter.
I design these custom mouthpieces for players who need effective equipment that will not hinder their overall performance. I have had these struggles before with playing on mouthpieces with sharp rims, etc. My goal is to make it easier for players by them not having to fight their equipment, but to be able to enjoy making music. To make it simpler.
I thought I would reach out and offer my Bájoc mouthpiece lineup as a very worthy candidate here.
I hope all of this helps, and have a Happy Easter weekend!
Best regards,
Jacob Hoskins _________________ https://bajocmusic.com/
I am driven to work generously in the service of others' musical creativity. |
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iiipopes Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2015 Posts: 565
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Richard III wrote: | I remember comparing the Curry and the GR years ago. I had both mouthpieces and found them quite different. The GR was, like the GR trumpet mouthpiece I had, really something special. Both were very easy to play with a great response. Why didn't I stay with the GRs? Something was missing in the sound. It was a lack of richness and depth that I found with the Wick mouthpieces.
The Curry BBC, oft touted here, but never did it work for me. It always felt, and still does feel, stuffy. Something just didn't work with the Curry. Odd, since I have may Curry mouthpieces and they all work really well. The BBC is the only one that didn't work for me. I also never found the sound anything special. It was not bright, not dark, not really much of anything, just middle of the road.
Another option is the Yamaha E series. Amazing sound and much easier to play that the Wicks. The question is will it work for your cornet. They are not expensive. I've got a bunch of them. |
I have a Curry 3BBC for my Sov 921 Globe Stamp. I like it. But not stock. It was also stuffy for me at first. So I measured the tip of the shank. The tip of the shank of my Wick 4B is @5 thou larger in diameter than the Curry. So I had Mark make me both a 3BBC and a 3TC with the shank 5 thou larger diameter. This increased the gap and got rid of the stuffiness. _________________ King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet |
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