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Brad361
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject: Schilke Z series? Reply with quote

Just curious as to who has tried the new Schilke Z series mouthpieces, and what are your impressions? (I KNOW, different players, different opinions, "you need to try it for yourself", "there's no magic mpce.", etc. I just ran across them, thought I would see what others who have tried them think of them).

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also very curious about the 14A4z with #28 bore.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giakara wrote:
I am also very curious about the 14A4x with #28 bore.

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Me too; so much that I just ordered one to try.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please post your comments about when you get it.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will do.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad,

This blank is actually an old one that was popular in the 70s and 80s. Schilke was a big innovator in skeletonizing mouthpieces. I still use a custom piccolo mouthpiece Scott Laskey made for me in 1983 (gulp!). It looks almost exactly like the new Z blank, except it's a cornet shank.

Another trend that was big back then was annealing mouthpieces, especially horn mouthpieces. Some of my fondest memories are visiting the showroom on Wabash and talking shop.

HTH

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben,

I do remember the "skeletonizing" they used to do, but never saw or tried one. I guess there is not much really "new" in the trumpet world.

I also remember visiting the old Wabash Av location in the 70's, pretty much a trumpet-Mecca, especially on a Saturday! Scott Laskey was there at time, I think Steve Winans was there at that time too.
Remember that rickety old elevator that felt like was ready to drop at almost any time?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: got the 14a4z, so far it doesn't feel markedly different from the standard weight 14a4a (which I have used off and on since the 70's), but I've not used it much yet. Plan on using it for the weekend gigs, we'll see how it works out. It does feel like it has a bit more "room" in the cup than the GR I've been using, which for me might work well.

As an aside, anyone know if these Schilke "Z" mpces are the "Jet Tone remakes" that Schilke brought out a couple years ago?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the backbore on those what Schilke used to call the "zinger" backbore?

I think they used to call it an "AA" at one point as well. I had a piece years ago, that I had the backbore cut and threaded for Warburton tops. It was stamped with a "Z" I think.

It was super tight and bright, wish I never traded it with a friend years ago.

Also, do the new Z series have a 28 hole now?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think so, ("zinger"), as far as the 28 throat, not sure; haven't been able to find that yet on Schilke's site. Maybe one of the ex Schilke guys here will know.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpet.sanity wrote:
Is the backbore on those what Schilke used to call the "zinger" backbore?

I think they used to call it an "AA" at one point as well. I had a piece years ago, that I had the backbore cut and threaded for Warburton tops. It was stamped with a "Z" I think.

It was super tight and bright, wish I never traded it with a friend years ago.

Also, do the new Z series have a 28 hole now?


I would say "zinger" describes it. Used it last night, it IS bright, but I don't think the sound crosses over into "brittle" or "shrill." It really does not feel a lot different to me than a standard 14a4a, but the sound is definitely brighter. Seems to work, for the type of gigs I do, so far. More time will tell, I think.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad361 wrote:
trumpet.sanity wrote:
Is the backbore on those what Schilke used to call the "zinger" backbore?

I think they used to call it an "AA" at one point as well. I had a piece years ago, that I had the backbore cut and threaded for Warburton tops. It was stamped with a "Z" I think.

It was super tight and bright, wish I never traded it with a friend years ago.

Also, do the new Z series have a 28 hole now?


I would say "zinger" describes it. Used it last night, it IS bright, but I don't think the sound crosses over into "brittle" or "shrill." It really does not feel a lot different to me than a standard 14a4a, but the sound is definitely brighter. Seems to work, for the type of gigs I do, so far. More time will tell, I think.

Brad


Sounds cool. I bet the lighter weight blank adds a bit quicker response as well. Always fun to get a new toy, let's see what you think after the honeymoon period.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpet.sanity wrote:
Brad361 wrote:
trumpet.sanity wrote:
Is the backbore on those what Schilke used to call the "zinger" backbore?

I think they used to call it an "AA" at one point as well. I had a piece years ago, that I had the backbore cut and threaded for Warburton tops. It was stamped with a "Z" I think.

It was super tight and bright, wish I never traded it with a friend years ago.

Also, do the new Z series have a 28 hole now?


I would say "zinger" describes it. Used it last night, it IS bright, but I don't think the sound crosses over into "brittle" or "shrill." It really does not feel a lot different to me than a standard 14a4a, but the sound is definitely brighter. Seems to work, for the type of gigs I do, so far. More time will tell, I think.

Brad



Sounds cool. I bet the lighter weight blank adds a bit quicker response as well. Always fun to get a new toy, let's see what you think after the honeymoon period.


True, the response does seem quick.

Yep, new toys are fun (as some guys shake their heads in disapproval over mouthpiece safaris.....😉).

As soon as it dawns on me that the new piece won't transform me into Doc I'll probably have a better idea.....😉

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