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Ludger Regular Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 29 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:43 am Post subject: Bach Orchestra-Suite Nr 3 and Weihnachts-Oratorium |
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I will be playing these two pieces as 3rd Trumpet. The suite this week and the Oratorium in a few month. I would appreciate any suggestions what trumpet (I mean in which key) would be the best to use.
For the oratorium I could learn how to play piccolo but certainly not for the suite.
I only own a B and a C Trumpet but I would be able to borrow a picc from my college and a D-Trumpet or anything else from one of the teachers I have had. _________________ Bb Monke MB 110 GH (Rotary)
Bb B&S Challenger II
C Yamaha YTR 6450S
Mouthpiece:Mmp Symphonic Line Mod. 6
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trpt.hick Rafael Méndez Forum Moderator
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 2632
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:32 pm Post subject: WHICH TRUMPET? |
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These third parts are often best on a small bore D trumpet, but if you are not experienced with one (because of weird intonation to get used to) I would recommend that you play on your C. Just play lightly and "bouncy."
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guenni-trumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 115 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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I totally agree with you, Mr. Hickman.
I don't think that a picc is the right trumpet for the 3rd parts of Bach because in the deeper registers a picc mostly sounds very thin and some tones couldn't be played. Try to get a D trumpet a few weeks before the gig to acclimate you on the horn so that you get familiar to its specific intonation, feel of blowing etc. So you will never have very much difficulties in playing together to the other trumpets! The intonation of a picc is sometimes very difficult so the 3rd trumpet has often to balance the trumpet section (my individual expirience..).
If you don't have the oportunity to get the D trumpet early for acclimation or if you don't get familiar then take your C and play the part not as a symphonic player but more as a chamber soloist! _________________ greetings from Germany
guenni-trumpet
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Ricco Kuehn B, C
*Canadian Brass C
*Yamaha Custom D/E flat
*Schilke P5-4
*B&S Challenger II
*Mouthpieces: Bach 1C, Bob Reeves 43 MPC
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Ludger Regular Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 29 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the kind replies.
The Suite went very well on Sunday. I played it on my C-trumpet because there was just no time to try anything else. The Yamaha is quite small- not suitable for orchestra but a very nice instrument- it sounded nice together with the first on A-Piccolo and the second on G-trumpet.
For the “Oratorium” I will borrow a piccolo because I was told (and thought so myself after seeing the score) that all three trumpets have to sound the same as they enter with the identical signal one after another.
I think this piece is an exception. For most other Bach-pieces the A/G/D combination will be the best solution.
Ludger _________________ Bb Monke MB 110 GH (Rotary)
Bb B&S Challenger II
C Yamaha YTR 6450S
Mouthpiece:Mmp Symphonic Line Mod. 6
Bach 1 1/4C |
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