Tired of losing your nuts?

badebop · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: Tired of losing your nuts?

I discovered a sure fire solution to keep your 3rd valve slide retaining rod nuts from vibrating off. Get a "rubber" bumper that is used for protection on the ends of trombone slides. It firmly slips over the threaded retaining rod and will not vibrate loose...plus, it looks cool!

AeroStud1026 · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject:

my trumpet teacher showed me a easy solution. Take a piece of thread and thread it through the nut hole, then take the nut and start to twist it on the rod, the thread will make it so the nut locks in
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R.A.S. · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:15 am Post subject:

Another method for keeping your nut(s) on is to dab a little bit of superglue on the end of the screw rod after you have the nut in place. Then screw the nut up next to the dried glue.

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old geezer · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:

After I set the nuts in the correct position I put a drop of clear finger nail polish behind the nut. It keeps the nut on and the nut can be manually taken off when you clean your horn. old geezer Dave

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badebop · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:34 am Post subject:

Yah, but it doesn't look as cool as my rubber bumper!

Trumpeter656 · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:24 am Post subject:

The trumpeter who sits beside me in concert band had a B&S and two classes or so ago, his screw/nut/whatever on his third valve slide broke in half. Now his slide is falling out onto the floor. I'm sure they have replacements. Do any of you know where he can get one?
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_Don Herman · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:36 am Post subject:

The little plastic lock nuts work well.

Rubber often contains sulfur, which will remove silver plating, so be careful with it. Don't use rubber bands on your silver plated horn!

HTH - Don
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aniello76 · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject:

I had my local shop thread the just the end of a plain metal rod so that I only need one of the nuts. It is also long enough to actually play C# in tune, unlike the factory Bach part. I can even play low F if necessary. Right now I have it adjusted to be just longer than I normally need for C#. For my students that play Bachs and my cornet, I went to the Home Depot and found a capped nut to fit the end of the factory part so that you can just screw it on the end. I had a teacher that used a piece of leather. Lots of choices, just make sure you use the slide and play in tune!

bophead · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:

My Kanstul 6x game with a little plastic bumper that was so fondly spoken of works well. Turning the nuts against themselves works well then using the bumper as insurance.

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O00Joe · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject:

My solution, pencil eraser with hole made by needle.

_dcstep · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject:

Locktite (use the low strength version so you can loosen the nut for cleaning). This is great stuff to have around the house for all kinds of similar problems.

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fuzzyjon79 · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Tired of losing your nuts?

plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

My two trumpets are "sans nuts" so I don't experience the problems you describe. H.N. White Co. Kings and Schilke don't have nuts, so I don't lose 'em!
However, I played a Conn 38B Connstellation as my main horn for twenty years and it had stop rods on both the first and third slides with adjustable threaded nuts with little plastic cushion rings for silent operation, plus brass screw-on end nuts to prevent the loss of the adjustable ones. It was a nice quality feature in Conn trumpets of the sixties. They wouldn't design a feature like that today because two end nuts would add $2 to the manufacturing cost of each trumpet, times 5,000 trumpets, equals $10,000. Ooops, that cuts into the CEO's bonus check- so it ain't gonna happen.
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trumpetgirl612 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject:

you can buy replacements from Dillons (NE only tho they might ship online) or you can use either a small hairtie or an orthodontic rubber band to secure them inplace wrapped after 1 or 2 nuts depending on how many you have retained......

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James B. Quick · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject:

I don't have this problem, since I carry an extra handful with me.... jbqd

RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:34 am Post subject:

the annoying thing for me is that i have a couple times forgotten to screw the nut all the way, and ive had my 3rd slide fall on to blacktop twice.

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trumpetgirl612 · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:27 am Post subject:

ouch! falling slides....that sux
i used to lose the slide that connects to the 3rd slide all the time.....then i had it tightened lol

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Brian Moon · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:52 am Post subject:

In a nutshell

the answer is round elastic cord. You can buy it a fabric stores. 5 yards for about $1.39. On a Bach remove the rod and thread the cord through instead. The same works, with variations, on all trumpets. Mine last about 2 years before the cord gets ratty. You can even get metallic in gold or silver to match your horn.

tom turner · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject:

Hi,

I lost my nuts before, at a fraternity party my band played at many years ago. Well . . . actually . . . I only lost one of 'em from my '72 Benge.

As one knows, one nut without the other nut to tighten hard against will cause a player to soon lose his other nut . . . if you are a pretty hard blower.

So . . . I went down to my local music store and ordered a new pair of nuts for the horn and never had that problem again.

My horns have come and gone through the years since then, but I always solved a POTENTIAL problem by purchasing an extra pair with each horn. Only my (then-new) 1980 Yamayuk didn't require an extra pair, since Yamayuks traditionally don't come with a pair on the horn.

MY GOLD PLATED NUTS

Following my time-honored tradition of keeping a spare pair of nuts handy for a crisis, when I bought my gold plated Wild Thing in 2000 I ordered an extra pair of gold nuts from Flip.

If one blows a WILD THANG . . . ya better have an extra pair of nuts handy. So far I haven't needed them at all . . . my original pair is doing quite fine, thank you!

But . . . an extra pair of gold plated nuts CAN come in handy . . . and they look quite impressive in their clear bag!

A TRUE STORY!

Tom