Valve guards

Rondawg · Veteran Member Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 488

Does this look like a pertty good valve guard:
http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/fg=42/g=brass/search/detail/base_pid/541046/
I'm trying to stay away from the bach ones because I've heard some bad things. So any help would be appreciated.
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LittleRusty · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:45 am Post subject:

Try the search feature on this website. There has been a lot of debate over valve guards, which valve guards, etc.

Jazzy_Mike · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:12 am Post subject:

I reccomend the Yamaha ones. It's what i've been using for years and I swear by it. It's velcro and has leather on one side and almost a fleece on the other. It's amazing quality and works fine. And it doesn't leave tarnish black stuff on the valves.
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karlose · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:38 am Post subject:

I have a reunion blues velcro valve guard and it works great! I have had it for about 7 years now and it is still in decent shape.
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ken_fung · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:00 am Post subject:

I personally stronly object to the use of any valve guards, not even a piece of cloth. I find them dampening the sound and make the horn less responsive.
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Jazzy_Mike · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:

AeroStud1026 · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:35 am Post subject:

I use the Leather Specialities valve guards on and off.....they are the best any money can buy
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Rondawg · Veteran Member Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 488

If I could get a leather specialties one off giardinellis I'd buy one. I've heard good things about them. But my parents are weird when it comes to online ordering and they only let me order off there. And giardinelli only has the bach ones and the protec one. That's my dilema.
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AeroStud1026 · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:12 am Post subject:

_dcstep · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:14 am Post subject:

Back when I was younger I used those Giardinelli valve guards for a number of years. I was totally satisfied and no negative side effects from the usage.

I now go guardless, mainly because I don't like the looks of the guards and think that I get most, if not all, the benefits by washing my hands before playing and wiping the horn regularly.

IMHO, the Leather Specialties things are ugly as sin. I'd rather have worn lacquer than have one of those things on my trumpet.

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Pedro · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 539

Well two thoughts. Apparently when I was younger, I had high acid content in my body and it did a number on my Strad. Thus I used a guard. Years of paranoia later, I used it on my 6310z lacquer for the same reason. After a conversation with Bobby Shew, He told me that the covers WILL inhibit the response, stemming from the valve section. Well, I can't speak for anyone else but....HE WAS SO RIGHT! I experimented with his theory and the response was night and day!! The horn opened WAY UP! I can say that because the cover was on the horn from DAY ONE!! As a bonus, I noticed that I must have gone through some metabolic change because I don't notice any wear on my horn and the cover's been off for almost a year! My 2 cents.

still_fiddlin · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject:

Here's what I have, or I think I do. They have a #1 and #2, don't know which I've got (from Dillon's). But, the one I have (leather, velcro) I've used on a silver King Super 20, lacquer Yamaha 6445H, 4335G and silver Kanstul 1504.

WW&BW Leather Specialties

My skin's not acidic/corrosive, so I don't "eat through" silver or lacquer, but my RH thumb eventually chews up anything. Mostly, though, I just prefer the the feel.

ken_fung · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject:

cjdjazztpt · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject:

VM Trumpet · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject:

brassmonkey · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

It seems as a lot of what could be happening is just mental. When I first buy a mouthpiece I think.... WOW this is the one!! Listen to how everything is different.. blah blah blah. Then a couple of days later its all back to square one.
So what Im thinking could be happening is that its just a change of pace like already said and that it really doesnt change tons.
However I personally DO have to use one because of my acidic hands. I use one of the deluxe Leather Specialties so it covers some on my 1st and third slide along with part of the bell. Basically it covers everywhere but the 1,3 rings and the pinky ring..... which are all highly corroded by the way.
At one point I tried to take it off becuase I heard people saying that it really messed with sound and whatnot, but when I took it off I never really heard a difference. Not to mention that my hand started hurting after 8+ hours on raw metal vs. padding.
Just my thoughts...... besides what works for me might not work for everyone else, but it sure makes ME happy!

Josh

old geezer · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:20 am Post subject:

I cut the valve guard down and just use the portion that goes around the bottom of the valve below the slides. this keeps my wedding ring from scratching the horn. old geezer Dave

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