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wvtrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Tom K. wrote: | I have heard that Wynton used a Bach 184 shepherd's crook on Carnival. |
You would be correct!!!! _________________ Freelance Performer/Teacher WV, PA, MD, and OH http://www.neil-king.com
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9372 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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wvtrumpet wrote: | Tom K. wrote: | I have heard that Wynton used a Bach 184 shepherd's crook on Carnival. |
You would be correct!!!! |
Well, at least Wynton and I have ONE thing in common! _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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_PhilPicc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="GordonH"] I am not saying Wynton is a bad player.
Please don't jump down my throat![/quote"]
Then what are you saying if you have a bunch as average as him? _________________ Philip Satterthwaite
We cannot expect you to be with us all the time, but perhaps you could be good enough to keep in touch now and again."
- Sir Thomas Beecham to a musician during a rehearsal |
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Bob Stevenson Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 1139 Location: Essex, England
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I have to agree with Gordon.....
Wynton is a fantastic trumpet player for several reasons in my view but the 'Carnival' CD was dissapointing from a UK cornet playing perspective. The idea is to play great music not just to do triple tonguing because you can.
We don't have many really top trumpet virtuosi but we have many cornet players who can show Wynton a thing or three! Most of them are unheard of and are likely to remain so,...brass bands here don't usually chase the limelight!
Someone in an earlier post mentioned Roger Webster who is quite a good player,...but he has recently been replaced at 'Black Dyke' by the fantastic Richard Marshal' who is a much better cornet player than both Roger and Wynton! |
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Tootsall Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Keep Wynton in context. He isn't trying to play in the "UK cornet playing perspective"... he's playing in the "US cornet playing perspective"... which is like trying to compare apples to oranges. The only thing faintly similar between the two is that the instrument is called a "cornet". Even the design of the horns and the mouthpieces are different, never mind the music and style of playing. |
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TheLawTalkingGuy Veteran Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 392 Location: Halifax, NS (Canada)
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Tootsall wrote: | Keep Wynton in context. He isn't trying to play in the "UK cornet playing perspective"... he's playing in the "US cornet playing perspective"... which is like trying to compare apples to oranges. The only thing faintly similar between the two is that the instrument is called a "cornet". Even the design of the horns and the mouthpieces are different, never mind the music and style of playing. |
Exactly. My understanding (partly from the liner notes of Carnaval, and partly from interviews Wynton has given) was that Wynton wanted a sort of "tribute" to the early part of the 20th century, when the wind bands and their cornet soloists, like Herbert L. Clarke, were king. Clarke wrote two of the pieces (The Debutante and Valse Brilliante), one is an African American spiritual, and others are European (Arban's Carnaval of Venice and Fantaisie Brillante, Rimsky-Korsakov's Flight of the Bumblebee, Napoli). None of these would be what I'd consider exclusively traditional British brass band fare, although obviously brass bands may have recorded them
Apparently Wynton wasn't keen on the traditional versions, though, thus the Hunsberger arrangements. _________________ John Underhill
The purpose of all music is "the glory of God and the re-creation of the human spirit." (J.S. Bach)
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TurkeyHooNahNah Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 882 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Wynton is the Paganini of Trumpet. |
Actually, people say that more about Sergei Nakariakov....
He even puts it on his cd's.... |
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Wise3028 Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Carlisle, PA
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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I saw Wynton do the "Carnaval" stuff live with the Eastman Wind Ensemble at the Academy of Music in Philadelphia when I was in college. Absolutely amazing!! I'm pretty sure somebody here on TH was in the Eastman Wind Enseble at the time. _________________ www.stpaulsbrass.com
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bach_again Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Bob makes a very valid point! Black Dyke Mills are a band that would nock you over how well they can play, fantastic band! their rendition of the 1812 overture is breath taking!
i play cornet over in northern ireland and i have just seen the fodens richardson band play on friday night, mark wilkinson the principal would completely frighten you he is soo good! they played carival that night, i wager a note wasnt missed! they also have the incredible glyn williams :O that guy has talent beyond a joke... plays a piece called the 'courtois showcase' playing solos on:
euphonium
trombone
baritone
tenor horn
flugel horn
cornet
soprano cornet
and at the very end a few glock notes. the sad thing being he played the cornet much better than i could! but i realise i have gone off topic and probably have no point.
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