• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Airy Tone when I play



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Mouthpieces
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
FrisbeePlayer
Veteran Member


Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 223
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Airy Tone when I play Reply with quote

I'm getting an airy tone when I play (as in, there's a slight lack of clarity to the note when i play it). I've experimented and discovered that as I go to larger mouthpieces, such as from 7C to 3C, this problem gets worse. So I'm thinking it's because I require a smaller rim diameter, however I was wondering whether it could have something to do with the cup depth. Because I still get the airy tone with the 7C. Any thoughts?
_________________
Bb Trumpet: Yamaha 8335RGS Customized
Bb Cornet: Yamaha YCR-732
C Trumpet: Bach 239 Bell w/25C Leadpipe
Pic: Schilke P5-4
Trumpet Mouthpiece: Bach 1C
Cornet Mouthpiece: Bach 1C
Pic Mouthpiece: Bach 7C
Attending Carnegie Mellon University
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
wvtrumpet
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 3131
Location: West Virginia

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to see you and hear you, but my past experience tells me that you are spreading your apeature to far apart.
Things to consider:

*Play with your lips forward!

*Pretend that you are holding a toothpick in between your two lips at the point that the "tear drop" forms.

*Practice playing a second line "G"...Remove the horn as you are playing, focusing your chop setting forward and blow an interval of a fourth upward as you are removing the horn from your chops (note this needs to be a constant motion, no pausing)....Do this three times, it will take practice, but I am sure you will find that this helps to better focus your chops...Best of luck, hope this helps.
_________________
Freelance Performer/Teacher WV, PA, MD, and OH http://www.neil-king.com
Yamaha NY Bb, Adams F1 Flugelhorn, Schilke P5-4, Stomvi Eb/D Elite, Bach C 229 bell 25A, York Monarch cornet.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
holeypants
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 996

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a pretty common problem; most players (myself included) struggle with that at some point in their playing.

In my case, the problem disappeared when I started spending more time on long tone exercises. Doing something like the Chicowicz flow exercises (and focusing on producing a consistent sound) will almost certainly help, and in time, may completely fix the problem.

I don't think switching equipment is the answer. With me, it was just a matter of working through the problem.
_________________
Jonathan Vieker
The Lip Rip Blues
My ongoing recovery from a torn lip muscle, updated regularly!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
FrisbeePlayer
Veteran Member


Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 223
Location: Chicago, IL

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly are the Chicowicz flow exercises?
_________________
Bb Trumpet: Yamaha 8335RGS Customized
Bb Cornet: Yamaha YCR-732
C Trumpet: Bach 239 Bell w/25C Leadpipe
Pic: Schilke P5-4
Trumpet Mouthpiece: Bach 1C
Cornet Mouthpiece: Bach 1C
Pic Mouthpiece: Bach 7C
Attending Carnegie Mellon University
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
holeypants
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 996

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an example.

Each note is a half note, at about a half note = 50 bpm. The first note is a second line G, and the last note is middle C. The whole exercise is within the staff.

G down to F# up to G up to A up to C down to A down to G down to E down to C.

G F# G A C A G E C.

When playing this exercise, focus on producing a consistent tone throughout the exercise. If your tone is airy, plow ahead anyway. It will improve.

Also, Carmine Caruso's Musical Calisthenics for Brass has many useful exercises that improve range, tone, and endurance. It's available on Amazon.com.
_________________
Jonathan Vieker
The Lip Rip Blues
My ongoing recovery from a torn lip muscle, updated regularly!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Luke6335J
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 722
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havn't ever seen Caruso. But i know for your problem that you should give it a go. ALSO, just go through the first pages of arbans with long tones.
_________________
Yamaha YTR 6335J
Monette B6 - put her aways for a bit.
Bach 10 1/2DW - gathering some dust, but maybe in the future.
Bach 7C - Love
America was a bit of fun - learnt not to ever talk about religion or politics LOL
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Mouthpieces All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group