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bachstrad72 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 871 Location: NJ/Philly
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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My name is Perry, and I am a recovering mouthpiece junkie. I have at one time or another owned the following (this is all that I can remember, but have owned MANY more, some listed I have owned numerous incarnations of):
Bach: 3C(at least 10 regular weight and 2 megatone),3D,3F,3,3B,5B,7C,7B,7D,7DW,7E,7EW,10 1/2C, 6C,6B,6BM, 1,1C,1X,1 1/4C, 1/2B, 1 1/2C, 1 1/2C 24/Schmidt, 2C, 5C
Denis Wick: 1C, 1CW, 2B, 4B, RW4B, 2F
Warburton: 3MC, 4SV, 4MC, 5S, 5M
Reeves: 42S, 43S, 43ES, 40M, 41S pic
Jet-Tone: T1A
Greg Black: NY3
Monette: B1-1, B4L, B4S, B4, C4, B5L
Giardinelli: 3S
Conn: No designation, felt like a 7B
GR: 67L, 67LX, 67MX, 66Z*, 64P
Marcinkiewicz: Shew 1.25, C. Findley, Rick Baptist, 5/3C
Purviance: 8A, 9
Stork: 2C, 2P, 2B, 1.5C, 1.5B, 3B
Curry: 3BC, 1BC, 3B, 3C, 5BC, 3TF
Yamaha: 16C4, Mark Gould, Bobby Shew, Canadian Brass R, 6A4a
Laskey: 80C, 50C, 50B, 50S, 50ES, 50F
Parke: Hagstrom .670 with a .665 rim
numerous custom jobs
I now only play on the mouthpieces listed in my signature. I found what fits me, and stopped trying to play mouthpieces that were the "things to play" just because other great players played on them. I found that big rims just didn't fit me, and that there was nothing macho or impressive about playing a certain mouthpiece. What's impressive is what you can do on it. I'll get off of my soapbox and get back in the woodshed.
edit: added a few that I just remembered. _________________ ~Perry Sutton~
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swinger_006 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 607 Location: Ciudad De Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Started on 7C, went to a Schilke 10B4 for High school, on a Reeves 41 for a couple months in college, long stint on Warburton 4MC, fooled around with Kanstul, Curry, Monette, etc. then finally finding out how nothing really compares to the deep, rich, sparkling sound of a handpicked Bach 1.5 C.
Have also been experimenting with smaller diameter Bachs, but can't get used to anything but my 1.5's rim. _________________ -Tim Gill
"Love yourself- and make your instrument sing about it." -Kurt Vonnegut
"If you can't swing, get weird!" -Billy Byers
www.timgillmusic.com |
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Brassmouth Regular Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I started on a Giardinelli 7C (not the same as a Bach) until freshman year of high school, then alternated between a Parduba 5 and a Schilke 14A4a (for marching band ) until sophomore year, then switched to a large-letter Bach 3C until my teacher sold me his LT Monette B6. I now play on a Monette STC-1 B4S and use the B6 for lead work. The rest are now paperweights. _________________ Horn: Bach Stradivarius 180-37
Mouthpieces: Monette STC-1 B4S; Monette LT B6 |
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CrunchedBell Regular Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I grew up using a Bach 3C because that is what my first teacher recommended. Now, after a long absence from playing, I have started using a Curry 3C. For all the years I was playing the Bach, it was cutting off the circulation to the center part of my upper lip, hampering my embrochure development. The Curry 3C has a different rim shape that seems to fit my embrochure much better. I now seem to be developing much faster and better than I ever did before. |
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thejoed Veteran Member
Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 143 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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settled on:
Monette B4: majority of playing
Monette MF: loud and high stuff
Wick 2: cornet
but along the way...
Bach 1, 1X, 3F, NY 7D
Schilke 13C4, 14A4a,13A4aa
Yamaha 14B4, 11
Giorgianni 2000
Al Cass 4s-2, Doubler (trumpet to bone)
Getzen Deluxe ML
Olds 3, 3(gold)
Kelly 3C
cornet
Bach 7C, 3C, 11EW, 3F
Wick 4B, 2
Monette B4LD
sure seems like a lot when you list em all out |
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screamking Regular Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 88
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I use a Shew 1.25 for everything and a Shew Marcinkiewicz flugelhorn mouthpiece. |
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p76 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: The Golden City of OZ
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, what an array, I am so boring by comparison.
Started out at age 7 on a Bach 7C
Changed at 15 to a Bach 5C
Went to the shop a couple of weeks ago (more than 15 years after the last mouthpiece change) to find a horn with a brighter tone than my Yammy, and instead came away with a Monette B2 - what a 'piece! I can't believe the difference in tone and loudness the change has made....much cheaper than a new horn too. _________________ Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel |
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Voltrane Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Paris (France)
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
I started with a Couesnon M (!) in '62 as a child, jumped to Bach 1C as a student, then used a Wicks 1X and now a Schilke 24.
I still play with the Wicks 1X or Curry 90TF, depending on what I have to play (Wicks=brighter than S24, TF= darker). So the trend was "always bigger" but it is ok now. Same thing on flugel today:a customized deep mp from Curry (warm and dark) or a Schilke 24 (more "trumpety")
Marc |
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TurkeyHooNahNah Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 882 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hey all,
I started, like just about everyone, on a standard Bach 7C, switched soon after to a 3C. I played the stock 3C for a number of years then bought the newer small lettering Bach 3C in gold plate. I then experimented with some other options like gold plated Schilke 14A4 and Monette B6 and am currently using a gold plated Bach 1 1/2C for Bb playing and a 7EW with a 117 backbore for piccolo playing. |
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Luke6335J Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 722 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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p76 wrote: | Wow, what an array, I am so boring by comparison.
Started out at age 7 on a Bach 7C
Changed at 15 to a Bach 5C
Went to the shop a couple of weeks ago (more than 15 years after the last mouthpiece change) to find a horn with a brighter tone than my Yammy, and instead came away with a Monette B2 - what a 'piece! I can't believe the difference in tone and loudness the change has made....much cheaper than a new horn too. |
Yeah Brass and Woodwind really jumped on the Monette band wagon, almost pulled me on, then i realised im a tight ass _________________ Yamaha YTR 6335J
Monette B6 - put her aways for a bit.
Bach 10 1/2DW - gathering some dust, but maybe in the future.
Bach 7C - Love
America was a bit of fun - learnt not to ever talk about religion or politics LOL |
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stradfreak101 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 612 Location: south texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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7c then 3c block letters then 3c small letters then custom 3c small letters then mount vernon 3c... _________________ "Whenever you make a big mistake, put your horn down and look aghast at the player next to you." -Bill Bryant
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Bach Stradivarius LT180s-43
Bach Stradivarius LT180-43 w/ 43 L-pipe
Monette B6
Mount Vernon 3c
Schilke 13a4a (marching) |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yamaha 14B4 for a few years now but am experimenting with much smaller gear now that I'm working with a pro on my range. In my lessons I'm playing his Calicchio Reid 1 while I wait for the shop to make me my own. Because I can't yet play the Calicchio for my regular gigs I've switched from the 14B4 to an 11B4 to reduce the transition shock. Just to drop names the pro is Steve Reid, who is awesome. |
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Maarten van Weverwijk Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 3377
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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bachstrad72 wrote: | My name is Perry, and I am a recovering mouthpiece junkie...I now only play on the mouthpieces listed in my signature. I found what fits me... |
I am glad for you that this period is over now. We all try and have tried mouthpieces, but if it grows out of hand it is only a signal of insecurity and it'll wreck your lips .
This is what I mainly use now:
Bach 1B or 1B megatone/Schilke 20C4 on C-trumpets
Bach 1B large throat on Rotary trumpets
Bach 1 or D.Wick 2B on C-cornet
Bach 1B or D.Wick 2B on Bb cornet
Bach 1-1/4C on Bb and Eb trumpets
7DW-117 on Piccolo.
Some 37 years ago I started playing the trumpet on a Bach 1-1/4C, the very one I am still using for the Bb and Eb trumpet! Then I played a Schilke 18C4 and a Bach 1C for about 10 years, before using the list that you see above.
In short: apart from the piccolo m.piece and the D.Wick cornet m.piece they are all more or less the same..., but it is not important at all what I am playing; it is important what works for you and what kind of music you are playing. Playing high-blow on a Schilke 20C4 or a Bach 1B would be VERY tiring IMHO.
, Maarten. |
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jpellett Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 1859 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:51 am Post subject: |
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I started on a Bach 7C, moved to a Bach 5C in junior high, and then on to a Bach 1C later in junior high. At some point in highschool I switched to a Schilke 16, then a Bach 3C. In college I switched to a Bach 3, and now play a Bach 2 for all Bb, C, and Eb work. I use the same unmarked Mt. Vernon for pic and cornet. My flugle is a Schilke 14f4.
Jason Pellett _________________ http://www.jasonpellett.com |
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The Royal Lancer Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 137 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Started out on a Bach 7. Switched to a Bach 3 in High School at the coaching of my trumpet teacher. Played that for all "legit" performances. Meanwhile, I was playing solo/lead soprano in Drum & Bugel Corps. For that I was using a Jet Tone T2B.
Continued through college with that combo, the Bach for legit and the Jet Tone for jazz/DC work.
Fast forward.
Made my comeback 4 years ago. My currrent teacher wanted to get me off the "bucket" Bach 3. Spent several hundread dollars on Warburton's 5MD, 4MD, and a 3MD. I'm using a 7BB and a 5*BB for my trumpets and an 8BB for my cornet. Great pieces, great sound with my horns. I can switch around the BBs and the cups in such a way it works for all of them.
Last week I started playing the Bach 3 again. I think I like it _________________ ‘20 Schilke Xa1 Cornet
‘19 Schilke 1041 Flugel
'17 Schilke B5
'07 Lawler C7 Deluxe
'01 Scodwell
'75 Olds Custom
'73 Getzen Severinsen
'67 Bach Stradavarius
'63 Martin Committee
'54 Contempora Trumpet (LB)
'53 Contempora Trumpet |
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TrentAustin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2002 Posts: 5485 Location: KC MO
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Mark_Heuer Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 152 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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GR 3M |
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mpre53 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 442 Location: Olde Cape Cod
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I started many moons ago on the Olds 3 that came with my Ambassador. My first teacher switched me to a Bach 7C and then a 3C (both Mt. Vernons). I played the 3C until I put down my horn when I started grad school in the early 80s. About 5 years ago I lent out my horn, an 60s vintage Eterna, to my son. I decided to start playing again last December, retrieved the horn, and found out that both Mt. Vernons had somehow left the case, along with my old Harmon mute. What was there instead was a NY Giardinelli 7C and an Elkhart 7E of undetermined vintage. I started trying some Yamaha pieces and decided I liked the rims better than Bach rims. Tried an 11B4, then a 14B4 and a 14C4. I settled on the 14C4 as the one that I liked the best.
I finally bit the bullet and sprung for a new horn, a gently used Strad 37 bell. It came with a gold plated 3C, large block letters. I hated the piece. Maybe it's just me, but it's not the 3C I grew up with |
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Accordion Ron Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 584 Location: Haverhill, Ma
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Being an accordion player since 1940, and a student at U Mass. Lowell 61 to 65, I wanted experience on a band inst. Always loved the sound of the trumpet. Was giving accordion lessons at "Metro Music" in Lawrence, which closed a long time ago. There trumpet man was Al Maglita, a guy who played with big bands etc. He had a permanent pressure circle on his lips. He sold me a new Besson Brevet for $150. I can't remember what kind of a mouthpiece it had, but I swapped it for a Mt Vernon 1 1/4C (on sale @ marketplace now) This Bach had belonged to Amando G, and one of the kids taking lessons from him had it. He didn't like it so he swapped it for one of the student insts. 7C............So, began a long time with 17mm sized mouthpieces. I played that Bach till a few years ago, then tried a Shilke 14. then a 14a4a. ...then, AHA ! I tried BE and found out that a bunched embouchure works better. Suddenly the 17mm cups seemed like face buckets. I had to go smaller. Bought 3 Kellys, 3C 5C and 7C. The 5C seemed pefect except for that sweet airy sound it made. I bought a GR65MS in gold plate. What a beautiful thing to behold. It played great immediately, felt great, but ten mintues later I couldn't play a note. Brian Scriber advise me to take it easy and have patience.
But, I couldn't play it till I took a vacation to my daughter's house in Colville Wash. this May and June. (they made me practice in the bathroom ha ha) But I played it for only 10 or 15 minutes softly a few times each day, and suddenly it felt great. Played great. and improved my sound, range, intonation, and attack. Got home and went to my usual band rehearsal, where they play real real loud. And regressed a tad. Hmmm? But this is the "piece" I shall roam no more. The quest is over. I just need to be patient.
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Accordion Ron Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 584 Location: Haverhill, Ma
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Ps. I ended up the 1st trumpet in the "Symphonic Wind Ensemble" at the expense of my grades. Practiced all the time, and studied some of the time. You know how it is. |
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