A trumpet with 2 bells? You dont say

KansasTrumpet

I have an idea floating in my brain to build a trumpet with two bells. Im thinking of useing an olds amabassador and adding a change valve so it can use the stock bell or a copper bell. Both bells will be tunable and ofcourse conveniently removeable for easy case storage. The best of almost all worlds of trumpet playing and you dont even have to change bells for it, just flip a switch. If anyone has interest in this project, let me know. Its motiveateing for me to build a horn if I know I can sell it.

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patdublc · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject:

I think this is interesting. Bobby Shew has used one over the years that he called the "Shew-horn". He played one bell open and the other bell muted. He had some quick switch valve to change between bells. That way he could play a piece like Stompin' At The Savoy in a fashion where he echoed himself muted. It was quite cool. I've been thinking about building one myself. Since I don't build horns for a living, it would be quite a project for me.

If you decide to move forward with the project, keep me in mind. I work for a Wichita based company (Koch) for my day job, so I may find myself in Wichita on business some time.

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Jugglemank · Veteran Member Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 227

I'm pretty sure a guy did pretty much that not too long ago. I remember seeing one floating around- I think he sent it to some guys for them to test it out, too.

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Check out Eric Miyashiro's dual bell pocket trumpet:

http://www.manleylabs.com/galleria/EVENTS/MF.html

scroll down about half way down the page

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dkelley · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject:

BobXX · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject:

http://trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44522

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Scream machine · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:

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Jugglemank · Veteran Member Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 227

Bob posted the link I was talking about.

THE BD · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I tested Tim Brown's dual belled horn, he did a great job. You might want to contact him about making one yourself, could be a good source of useful info!

Here is a few pics of me and some freinds with the horn that he made!
Here's Scott:

Here's Tim

And Myself!

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Mr. Stomvi · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Apr 2002 Posts: 1062

Why not just an echo cornet from the 1800s

http://www.decadesign.com/scptest/courtoisechohybridafter.jpg

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KansasTrumpet · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:

KansasTrumpet · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:

Ive finally bent my first copper bell!!! This was only my second attempt, but its still a huge acheivement in my book.

Here are the preliminary pictures for the dual belled horn I am building for Pat Shaner. Nothing polished out. Lots of things still need to be fabricated and fit. The copper bell needs to be cleaned, cut, mounted and finished. Ltos and lots to do, but the plan is to have it before '07.

Hope you like how its looking Pat.

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James Becker · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

[quote="dkelley There's this guy..

http://www.marcoblaauw.com/doublebell.htm[/quote]

I found Marco Blaauw"s trumpet quite interesting seeing how it also sports a self contained 1/4 tone rotor on one of it's main tuning slide assemblies with no mention of a patent...Hmmmm

They also mention one very cool feature in the rotor articulated double tuning bell, that being a tremolo effect.

My original idea involves one front facing bell and one rear facing bell with a rotor valve between the two. Here comes the really fun part! The rotor is driven by an electric motor with a speed controlled foot switch much like a Lesley speaker on a Hammond B3 organ. This would enable the player to speed up and slow down the tremolo effect.

So much to do and so little time.....I've got to get back to repairing some horns!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Jim Becker

patdublc · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:35 am Post subject:

Michael -

Yes, I am very pleased with how this is developing. As I told you, I've been interested in a project like this ever since I saw Bobby Shew play his "Shew Horn" at one of the ITG Conferences. I think that might have been the LSU conference in 1991. So, I guess it only took me 15-years to finally pursue it seriously. I must have been too busy practicing - LOL!!!
Thanx again for your creative efforts and excellent communications along the way.

Jim -

An electronic tremolo effect on trumpet - who'd thought? You brass repair genius guys just never quit coming up with great ideas.

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McH · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:07 am Post subject:

You might want to take a look at Ben Neill's mutantrumpet -- it has 3 bells! www.benneill.com

KansasTrumpet · Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:30 am Post subject:

Some updated pictures now available at photobucket:
http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m67/bbirshop/dual%20belled%20Olds/

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CRoberts8 · Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:01 am Post subject:

Impressive!

I would love to know how to work on a horn and create something like that. But I think I will just admire it on here for now ^_^
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bandman322 · Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:06 am Post subject:

TWO BELLS!!!!

I don't want to ever hear anyone say anything about a Harrelson or a Monette being too heavy ever again!!!

Just kidding - I want that pocket trumpet with two bells --- that looks like lots of fun!!!
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TimBrown · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject:

It has been some time since I've been on TH much; the past year has been rough. But it is great to see the dual-belled trumpet idea hasn't reached its demise!

Mine is still here, although a bit tarnished. I need to give it a good polishing. Once in a while I consider ebaying it. This horn by KansasTrumpet looks good!

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RBtrumpet08 · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

That's going to be a pain to hold....
Yeah I was another that dabbled around on Mr. Tim Brown's dual belled trumpet. It was certainly a funny little contraption. He did a good job with it, but kansastrumpet, don't forget to make sure both bells play in tune with eachother! They look pretty close though. (Now I dare someone to put a swith, like a partial tubing bypass on the second one to make it an optional C trumpet

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Not so sure what the air through both bells would be like, :\, but it might come out with a cool effect. Then again, maybe like an air leak. Or maybe like playing a trumpet will a trombone bell on it because of the added bell "diameter"
Good luck!
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