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Randall Nelson
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...thanks...super!!...I think the comment I'll be busy for a while is right on....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a TON of free music, and just what I have been looking for. Thanks a lot to both the guy who found the original link, and the guy who reposted.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quad_c_screamer wrote:
Thanks a lot to both the guy who found the original link, and the guy who reposted.

What about the guys who came up with those lines in the first place? C'mon, my man, how 'bout some credit where credit is due?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting those again... I have them saved to my computer now
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeboppinFool wrote:
The best players steal from the best!
So true...so thanks to Brownie, Trane, and Brecker. I love stealing from you!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Tons of Jazz patterns (PDF) Reply with quote

allstarbugler wrote:


Got to admit I am curious about something, and this question is not directed at you, just a general question to all trumpet players: I'm not a jazz player. But after I learn all these licks and patterns (which are not difficult but definately time consuming), how much money can I realistically expect to earn over and above what I am making now bugling at a race track?

Sincere Thanks!


Depends how well you can play and use them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxleyk wrote:
This is one thing that has always baffled me about learning jazz. What do you do with these patterns?

Kent


Ive been asking myself the same question for years. I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back. They must have got together and gone 'check this out, you can play this over this!'

Not to discredit this kind of learning in any way...I just wish I could benefit from it too, but cant suss out how. Is it a question of just going over stuff systematically again and again until it sinks in?!

The only stuff that ever comes out in my playing is something I like from the start and my brain and heart is going 'yes' when i hear it.

Confused.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

windandsong wrote:
I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back.
Matter of fact, that's exactly what they did.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamahaguy wrote:
windandsong wrote:
I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back.
Matter of fact, that's exactly what they did.


interesting. why not i guess?

and right ho chris on playing them over changes to really understand the whole bit. I should try this more.

thanks guys
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Yamahaguy wrote:
windandsong wrote:
I mean back in the day surely the cats didnt sit around transcribing off the record, putting the needle back.
Matter of fact, that's exactly what they did.


Some even slowed the LP's down with weight over the stylus. Tough on intonation and even tougher on vinyl. The wealthier (or more committed) bought reel-to-reels and recorded at one speed and played back at half-speed which yielded an octave shift although in proper pitch.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

healey.cj wrote:
I've come to the opinion that patterns and licks are useless unless you can play them along with the changes.

If you are practicing them without the chords then you never really learn how they work and fit into the rest of the music.

I dunno if I'm right, but that seems to be my (limited) experience with trying to make patterns work when actually soloing.

Chris


I agree - unless you can really hear the sound of the chord progression in your head. But yes, patterns and lines seem to 'stick' better if you can practice them in the context of a chord progression
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamahaguy wrote:
Check this site out...this cat is a really good sax player and there is SOOO much good stuff here:
(look on the left!)
http://www.petethomas.co.uk/jazz-patterns.html



yama,
great site much thanks..chuck
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, craigtrumpet.

Thank you very much! Very cool/generous of you to share these with us. Much appreciated!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

To me, patterns themselves indicate the chord progression(s). I didn't buy into this until the last couple of years, but it's true. If you do them enough, get them under your fingers so they flow, you begin to hear the tonal centers and when you play with others and those chords pop up, so do some of the patterns for which they were designed and you begin to play those that fit along with whatever else pops into your head. Also, it gives you a context for jazz playing. For me, the more I do the more ideas I get when I'm up there, naked. Some of the best of the best work up their OWN patterns in practice to use in different contexts, something that's totally original.

Have a warm January,

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MikeyMike wrote:
Tough on intonation and even tougher on vinyl.
True. Back in the day, I always taped my records onto cassettes. Remember those?
I remember the very first solo I transcribed, posted here:
http://www.jazztrumpetsolos.com/solo.asp?soloist=MilesDavis&Solo=Auprivaue

Couldn't slow it down- I'll bet I rewound that tape a hundred times or more! But it was well worth it, lots of good licks in that one. On patterns...you really should transpose them in all keys. Ed is correct, they are great for the fingers but even better for your ears!
Chuck, you're welcome. I've been using that stuff for years, good theory and patterns not only for myself but my students as well.
Peace,
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for bumping this thing up guys. I somehow missed this thread, and it is TEH ROXOR!!!!!
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Yamahaguy wrote:
Back in the day, I always taped my records onto cassettes. Remember those?

Peace,
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LOL. Had one too many of those hanging around and thought about putting it on ebay. Figured that was an exercise in futility and donated it to Goodwill. Some RTRs somewhere I'm sure, the old Dynaco still has a place in one of the systems (the middle part of a tri-amp config) and I've got more audio tubes Dr. Zarkov ever dreamed of. Oh, yeah, I remember cassettes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

healey.cj wrote:
I remember seeing that solo and thinking "I wonder if that was Dennis...?"
Yes- that would be me!
There's also one of K.C. Blues too...he used to give a free CD with 2 solos,
Clark Terry w/ Metropole Orch.- what a deal!
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