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jpellett Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: Bach 5C |
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I've recently figured out that in many ways I love the feel of the 5C. Response is easy and I have a pure, even sound through all registers. However, the upper harmonics seem a little muffled so I hesitate to actually play it. Any suggestions for a different backbore, equivalent piece from another maker, etc?
Jason Pellett _________________ http://www.jasonpellett.com |
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Jason,
I played on a 5c for many years and found the upper register 'stuffy' too. I liked the rim so I wanted something similar. I found that Warburton was a perfect fit. And you can change backbores for any situation. For legit, a 5MD with 10 bb- and lead 5SV with Q bb work for me.
Peace,
-Dennis |
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jpellett Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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I was actually talking more about liveliness of the sound than stuffiness, but I would certainly take a mouthpiece that freed up the upper register more, and I know the Warburtons I've played all seemed to have good resonance. I'll have to check those combinations out. Thanks for the suggestions.
Jason Pellett _________________ http://www.jasonpellett.com |
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jazz_trpt Heavyweight Member
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Bach 5C |
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jpellett wrote: | I've recently figured out that in many ways I love the feel of the 5C. Response is easy and I have a pure, even sound through all registers. However, the upper harmonics seem a little muffled so I hesitate to actually play it. Any suggestions for a different backbore, equivalent piece from another maker, etc?
Jason Pellett |
Bill Adam always sounded fine in the high register on his 5C. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've never liked the Bach 5C (or the 7C, either). Mouthpieces are like that - one person's treasure is another person's trash. It's more of a question of which mouthpiece matches your mouth and your horn. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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jpellett Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 1859 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Bach 5C |
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Billy B wrote: | jpellett wrote: | I've recently figured out that in many ways I love the feel of the 5C. Response is easy and I have a pure, even sound through all registers. However, the upper harmonics seem a little muffled so I hesitate to actually play it. Any suggestions for a different backbore, equivalent piece from another maker, etc?
Jason Pellett |
Bill Adam always sounded fine in the high register on his 5C. |
I actually like it up high and have used it for my pic mouthpiece for a while. It just doesn't have quite the overtone presence of other mouthpieces I play. Obviously if Bill Adam plays one that's not a problem inherent in the horn though. Maybe I'll just play it for a while and see if I find the sweet spot better. There were some times I was playing it today when it seemed to coome to life a little more.
Jason Pellett _________________ http://www.jasonpellett.com |
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richardwy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Jason, do you guess if you worked on it exclusively for a predetermined period the stubborn overtones in the the upper register might become audible?
The pure even sound in other registers taking over in that one?
Just a thought.
Ditto on gap from the poster 1 down from me. _________________ 1972 Selmer Radial
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure the gap is correct. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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Tom LeCompte Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jason, have you tried any of Karl Hammond's mouthpieces? Perhaps a 6ML or 6MLx? I would characterize his mouthpieces as in the Bach tradition, but with a little more sparkle or zing to the tone. These might not be quite what you want, but I think they'd be worth trying. |
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chapahi Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Try Laskey's 60MC. The 60C is the 5C equivilent while the 60MC is a little shallower and livlier. I heard the 60MC was for Doc Severnson, also a 5C fan. _________________ Sima, Kanstul 1525 Flugel and Kanstul pocket trumpet. Olds Super |
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plp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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I played a 5A for many years, and when I first started my comeback, got a 5C and 5D with the idea of staying with that rim. Neither were nearly as good in the (abeit limited) upper register as the 5A. It didn't dawn on me until after I had sold them that my 5A was modified with a reamed out throat, which is probably why they both got so thin above first ledger A.
Ditto on the Warburton suggestion. The combinations are almost endless (OK, an exageration, there are a finite number of combinations) and are the most consistent in rim size of any brand I've tried. |
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