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spitvalve
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been experimenting some with this concept of less air. I was brought up in the blow-your-brains-out tradition, and always had a big sound until I got into the high C+ range, and then it thinned out considerably, most often in performance situations, less so when practicing. I finally started paying attention to what I was doing in practice when things were working, and lo and behold, it all involves tongue placement and air volume. I'm not fully into the TCE thing, but using the tip of the tongue to channel the air and doing the spit buzz thing away from the horn seem to be producing good results. Yesterday I drilled a double C--something I've done before, but usually not with the same embouchure that got a decent sound down low. This time I started on the DHC and went down the scale all the way to pedal C, and then slurred back up. And the pressure I used for the DHC was about equal to the pressure I would normally use an octave lower. I'm definitely on to something. I'll fiddle with it some more and report back in a few weeks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AverageJoe wrote:
Both Jim and Roger Ingram have spring-boarded off of Bobby's concepts.
Paul


And Bobby Shew parachuted out of Bud Brisboi's airplane.....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybix76 wrote:
AverageJoe wrote:
Both Jim and Roger Ingram have spring-boarded off of Bobby's concepts.
Paul


And Bobby Shew parachuted out of Bud Brisboi's airplane.....


Don't think Bud ever flew planes...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybix76 wrote:
AverageJoe wrote:
Both Jim and Roger Ingram have spring-boarded off of Bobby's concepts.
Paul


And Bobby Shew parachuted out of Bud Brisboi's airplane.....


Don't worry - I got it
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Kevin Burns
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just curious if you could embed videos in other parts of the forum.

Here is one of the clips that this huge thread is based on...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the other video...


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin Burns wrote:
Roger does the yoga breath or 'wedge' that he learned from Bobby Shew which interestingly he says was influenced by Bud Brisbois. When I saw that video I was like "that's exactly what Jim was showing in the video I posted!"


This video of Roger is great. It's kind of the same approach but there is one big difference - Roger is playing with an fairly open aperture and Jim uses a very small aperture (like Cat Anderson did)... any comments, advices, et. on this?

Thanks a lot,
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jouko
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everybody

Really good info about breathing! I liked very much that " eggbreathing".

Very nice way to feel the right feeling when inhaling.

Kind Regards Jouko Moilanen

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