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trptdaddy
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 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Flip Oakes Celebration vs Yamaha Artist NY vs 8335LA |
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Anyone played all of them? Which would be more suitable for symphonic and quintet playing? Thanks.
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Morbo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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That's a weird question since only the NY is made for symphonic playing. The other two are jazz horns.
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trptdaddy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Morbo wrote: | | That's a weird question since only the NY is made for symphonic playing. The other two are jazz horns. |
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. So have you played all three of them?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I found his response to be be perfectly reasonable. You asked for a comparison of the three horns, no?
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trptdaddy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| fraserhutch wrote: | | I found his response to be be perfectly reasonable. You asked for a comparison of the three horns, no? |
Yes, I did. I've read that all three horns are very versatile. I was hoping for critique of how versatile they were by those who have tried them, rather than how they are being marketed presently. That's not much of a comparison.
Chase Sanborn has said of the Yamaha NY: "The New York Bb has proven to be popular with jazz players as well as classical players. Marvin Stamm and Sean Jones both love this horn. It has a well-balanced sound that works in a variety of settings. " And as to the Yamaha Chicago, which I consider, after playing them both, to be even more "symphonic" than the New York, Chase says: "Initially I thought I would settle on the LA. My playing requirements are diverse and the LA covers all bases equally well. In the end, though, I chose the Chicago."
So, based on the reviews, I was trying to get by the marketing hype of what they were "intended for" and see if anyone really knew. I have played both Yamahas for a little bit and an 8335LA very briefly. I have not played the Celebration but have heard good things about it.
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Edit: My original question as to "which one" was probably too narrow. Let me rephrase: "who has played all three and would all of them be suitable for symphonic and quintet playing?" |
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Don Lee
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Morbo wrote: | | That's a weird question since only the NY is made for symphonic playing. The other two are jazz horns. |
Actually, I thought the Celebration was an all around horn the some have described as the "ultimate Bach".
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Retlaw
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Don Lee wrote: | | Morbo wrote: | | That's a weird question since only the NY is made for symphonic playing. The other two are jazz horns. |
Actually, I thought the Celebration was an all around horn the some have described as the "ultimate Bach".
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Not the Celebration....that was me describing my NY 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Yamaha-Wild Thing-8335LA |
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I own the Yamaha NYS model, but I have played the others.
LA-Nice horn but to spread a sound for my taste. I think it might work better with a tighter backbore and smaller mouthpiece.
Wild Thing-I have only played this model and it plays great but again the sound is to spread for my taste. I think it would be a great solo instrumment. Again I think this model works best with a smaller tighter mouthpiece
9335NYS-Like I said I own this horn and I think it is a great all around horn. Not as spread a sound as the other 2 but plays open with the Malone leadpipe. This horn till sounds great with a larger mouthpiece. I don't mean huge, like a Bach 3C.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Why not throw the Scodwell in the mix as well? |
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Morbo
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| trptdaddy wrote: | | Morbo wrote: | | That's a weird question since only the NY is made for symphonic playing. The other two are jazz horns. |
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. So have you played all three of them?
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I have, and personally own the NY. The bore was way to big on the Flip horn for me to make the symphonic sound I wanted. The LA was very nice, and if I was in a jazz band, I would likely use that one. But I'm not, so I won't.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Yamaha-Wild Thing-8335LA |
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| bebop wrote: | | Wild Thing-I have only played this model and it plays great but again the sound is to spread for my taste. |
The Wild Thing and the Celebration are two entirely different instruments. I have played my Celebration in a brass quintet, a church orchestra, a community symphony and as a solo instrument. It is an exceptionally versatile trumpet. The Wild Thing is a lead horn and, though I love it for soloing, the Celebration is preferred in the groups I play in. How do I know this? I took both horns to rehearsals and let the conductors choose.
I'm sorry to say that I have not played the other horns. I just wanted to make it clear that all the Flip Oakes horns are not just the Wild Thing relabeled under a different name. They are all very different.
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