TH Issues

jpetrocelli · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: TH Issues

I am sick and tired of people who hide behind their fake names and make rude comments to others who are trying to take part in a meaningful discussions.

Last time I checked, this was a public forum dedicated to communication between trumpet players. We are supposed to offer meaningful conversation, and help to those who ask for it, and learn from the thousands of other trumpet players in the world who want to take part. The idea is to help. Not hinder or steer people in the wrong direction.

We are extremely fortunate to have so many people here on TH who have great jobs and are so willing to offer great advice. We are also fortunate to have many MANY amazing trumpet players here on TH who perhaps haven't gotten that job yet.

Let's stop attacking each other with little jabs and mal-intended comments.
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tptfrbrains · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:25 am Post subject:

Joe,
I just started to notice after reading your post that you seem to have a stalker.
Do you know this guy who has taken on the name DwightKSchrute? Is this what your post is about? If it is, I understand you completely.

Here are some examples of posts recently by DwightK Schrute, for those of you who haven't noticed:

Ah, thank goodness for the Joe Petrocelli stamp of approval...was that necessary?

Or sit your butt at a computer and wait for jpetrocelli to get back to you with the magic answer...

jpetrocelli, you talk too much.

At first I thought it must have been a good friend who was just having fun with you.
After seeing your post, I'm not so sure.
If you don't know who this guy is, and even if you do, I think it's about time to bring this to an end - you spend a lot of time on this forum helping other people, and exchanging information - nobody needs to be hounded by some jackass with a misplaced sense of humor.
I'm sorry it's happening, and I hope the moderators will look into it and punch this idiot's ticket.

r.

cjl · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:40 am Post subject:

That is, fortunately and unfortunately, just what happens in a public forum.

If a person is struck from the forum, what stops them from re-signing immediately under a different name and email?

Anonymity is just a part of the internet world. Some policing is necesary(z.B. language), but try to keep it as slight as possible.

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AverageJoe · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:53 am Post subject:

tptptp · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:59 am Post subject:

Gosh, I agree. Self-centeredness is alive and well. Disagreement and exchange of ideas are valuable, but sarcasm and an "in-your-face" attitude are juvenile and help no one.
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Grasshopper · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:

Yeah, forum admins "usually" have access to pretty decent filters to block certain IP ranges or addresses, if they are knowledgeable enough about how to work it.

Like it was said, forums allow weirdo's to hide behind computer screens making it easier to be an @$$. I've done it a few times in the past as I'm sure we all have to a degree. But we have to live with it until the forum admins are willing to do more along those lines. I'm a mod on one forum and a supermod on another. There's a lot to deal with behind the scenes.
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This topic was moved from the trumpetherald.com forum.

If a poster is behaving inappropriately, the best thing to do is notify the Moderators. We don't see every post, and we aren't as likely to notice repeated patterns of incivility as the people who may be on the receiving end. All users must adhere to the Usage Agreement, and those who repeatedly insist on ignoring it are not welcome on Trumpet Herald. The Moderators will discuss what to do about this individual.

jpetrocelli · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:38 am Post subject:

It does seem that I have a non-fan.

I don't know the guy. I don't know why. I have never slighted him. I have never said that I am this amazing trumpet player or educator. I just like to think that I know A LITTLE about trumpet playing and like to talk about trumpet.

I did see his latest response which fueled me to write this little bit to get my feelings off of my chest. Actually, I first wrote him a VERY pointed response in a PM. But by the time I finished typing, I had cooled off and decided to not send it.

I would never leave TH. I have too much fun, and it really bugs my wife.

However, I think jokers like this are the reason that some big name extremely well known and very helpful people have left.
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mcahynuacrkd · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 1149

Wow!!!

Joe I listened to your clips, you are a fantastic trumpet player. A +

Don't get discouraged, as well as you play you should hold your head up high, the heck with the doubters and criticizers.

MIKEY
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Maarten van Weverwijk · Heavyweight Member Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 3377

Yes, this is something else than a healthy difference of opinions.

In general I just take them as miserable jealous bastards:
-clearly without a real life or family
-probably without a job or only a very meaningless one
-they think they are mr. big-shot and consider themselves funny
-they have never achieved anything in life that they think they are entitled to
-blame their lack of talent on "the others"
-with not much else to do than hang around on these forums and bash, slam and bark nonsense.....

Check out their posts and you'll see that 90% of their input is crap. A good and confident trumpeter wouldn't need that.
Mind you, I've seen quite some (but definitely not all) critics in papers and magazines written by envious ex-musicians like that.

As for you, Joe and the vast majority of the other TH members: keep the good posts coming!

MvW.

camel · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:53 am Post subject:

Just my 2 cents: ( having a nick which is obviously NOT my real name

) This whole topic is too much credit for these kind of internetlosers.

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the cleaner · Regular Member Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 29

tptfrbrains · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:01 am Post subject:

Once again, the cleaner says it all.

r.

jpetrocelli · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:26 am Post subject:

the cleaner - an internet hero.

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westview1900 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1617

Joe, I agree with everyone else. I've heard your playing on the internet and you are really good. If you ever give any concerts in the NYC area, please let us know.
Mr. Cleaner, I love your posts. That Piracy thread post was pure genius.
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camel · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:39 am Post subject:

Morbo · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 599

I am not advocating being a jerk here, but I like my anonymity. There should be no reason we have to use real names. Some people do, and that's fine. I choose not to, and would like it to remain that way.

If some people are acting outside the rules that have been set up and the moderators have not acted, then your real problem is with the moderators.
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tptfrbrains · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: