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MrV
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Haydn & Hummel C Trumpet Parts Reply with quote

I have the Bb and Eb trumpet Haydn and Hummel Concertos parts but I just realize I don't have the C trumpet part. If any of you have a pdf file they can share with me I would appreciated.

I need the C trumpet part so that I can play the concertos in Eb major on a C trumpet.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about C trumpet parts, but I would just transpose the Bb part. You could do that pretty easy, and not have to worry about copyright laws...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C parts don't exist, and both pieces are long in the public domain, so you won't need to worry about copyrights. Just put them into Sibelius and hit the transpose button.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both of you guys are right, since I'm not at home I can't do that at this time and I won't be back home until Christmas.

I just thought someone here could have done what I'm looking for and save me the trouble

Thanks guys for your suggestions.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got to believe that if you can play the thing in 4 flats like it will be on a C trumpet (2nd movement even more flats) that transposing from the Bb part should be a piece of cake.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hack001 wrote:
C parts don't exist, and both pieces are long in the public domain, so you won't need to worry about copyrights. Just put them into Sibelius and hit the transpose button.


C parts certainly do exist. I bought the Hummel in E Major from Universal Edition and it came with Bflat, C and E trumpet parts.

To the op, sorry, but I have no idea where the parts are. Maybe I can find them this weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i stand corrected
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WIMA has the Haydn Eb part for Finale 2006 here: http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Haydn.php - there is a C-trumpet part, but it isn't the lead, so you'd have to read it in. I don't know, but maybe the free version of Finale (called NotePad) can read the 2006 version file and then you could transpose it. NotePad is a free download...

You'd need the 2008 version of Finale to get the Hummel (here): http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Hummel.php

Good luck...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another reason to learn to transpose!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Hummel in Eb for C trumpet Reply with quote

The Jean Thilde edition has the trumpet part for C trumpet. This is the Maurice Andre series. My copy is very old so I do not know if it is still available.

Ghitalla performed it on a C trumpet I believe.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghitalla DID perform it on C. At least, he did so at the premiere.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the coversation has morphed into the Hummel rather than the Haydn. I'm pretty sure Ghitalla did not premiere the Haydn!!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Scott, Ghitalla was old, but not that old.

Think it was Anton Wiedinger at the premier of both, most likely in Esterhazy.
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