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tp2038
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 Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: Lost 3rd slide stopper screw |
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I have a Bach Strad and lost one the two stopper screws. I do not know when I lost it.
Are there 3rd stopper screws that do not come off easily?
What is the size of the stopper? I want to get one from a hardware store until I get the original part.
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Don't worry about the screws - you can also use a rubber band, hair tie, etc. to make sure the third valve slide doesn't come off. I have lace on mine. 
What you do is you loop whatever you decide to use around the finger hole, and then around the second valve slide and Voila! your slide should stay on.
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I always found those stoppers to stop the slide too soon for C#s (I hate using my 1st and 3rd slides for C#, prefer using just the 3rd) so I always removed the original stopper rod and replaced it with something longer that is bent over at the end.
If you do want to look for a knut to put on the stopper rod, you can remove the rod with an allen (hex) wrench and take it with you to the hardware store.
I also second the use of rubber bands, string, lace, whatever to hold the slide on. My C trumpet doesn't have a stopper so I use a short piece of string to tie it on.
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| jkarnes0661 wrote: | | If you do want to look for a knut to put on the stopper rod, you can remove the rod with an allen (hex) wrench and take it with you to the hardware store. |
Much simpler... since you still have one of the nuts, take that into the store with you. Any good hardware store (and even Home Despot, as i recently learned), will have a thread gage so you can size it off the current stop nut. If they don't have a thread gage (unlikely), you can just try threading your stop nut onto differnt machine screws until you find the right one. Then voila! grab a few of the corresponding nuts of the same size and thread.
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+1, should have thought of that. 
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You could trie taking a new one placing it on a smooth surface like concrete or steel and strike it on one side with a 5lbs. hammer rather hard. This will make it a little ovual shaped instead of round. Old farmer's will do this often when they run out of lock washer's. It works fairly well. It will definately not work it's way off by accident ever again.
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If you put the locking stop nuts on correctly they will not loosen and fall off.
When you put the nuts on the rod make sure the raised part of the nuts are far apart not next to each other. This gives you a gripping surface Once you have them in the right place tighten them by turning against each other. This will lock the nuts together and they will not move, ever. This is why they are called locking stop nuts.
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Use a string for now and just order up some new nuts. Not that expensive.
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| Capt.Kirk wrote: | | You could trie taking a new one placing it on a smooth surface like concrete or steel and strike it on one side with a 5lbs. hammer rather hard. This will make it a little ovual shaped instead of round. Old farmer's will do this often when they run out of lock washer's. It works fairly well. It will definately not work it's way off by accident ever again. |
I think folks just don't get your sense of humor. You could toss up a few of the smiley face icons just be make sure everyone appreciates this is a joke. You ARE kidding right?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: Lost 3rd slide stopper screw |
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Just about any repair tech should have these Bach nuts.
The thread is 5-40.
Cost is $4.00 each for silver plate, $3.00 each in nickel.
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| oliver king wrote: | | Capt.Kirk wrote: | | You could trie taking a new one placing it on a smooth surface like concrete or steel and strike it on one side with a 5lbs. hammer rather hard. This will make it a little ovual shaped instead of round. Old farmer's will do this often when they run out of lock washer's. It works fairly well. It will definately not work it's way off by accident ever again. |
I think folks just don't get your sense of humor. You could toss up a few of the smiley face icons just be make sure everyone appreciates this is a joke. You ARE kidding right? |
I'm not sure which is funnier... it being a joke, or being serious. Either way, this posting is hilarious!
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| ConnArtist wrote: | | oliver king wrote: | | Capt.Kirk wrote: | | You could trie taking a new one placing it on a smooth surface like concrete or steel and strike it on one side with a 5lbs. hammer rather hard. This will make it a little ovual shaped instead of round. Old farmer's will do this often when they run out of lock washer's. It works fairly well. It will definately not work it's way off by accident ever again. |
I think folks just don't get your sense of humor. You could toss up a few of the smiley face icons just be make sure everyone appreciates this is a joke. You ARE kidding right? |
I'm not sure which is funnier... it being a joke, or being serious. Either way, this posting is hilarious! |
I hear this is a good idea if your horn is playing sharp. Lay the horn on the ground and strike it really hard with a 5# sledge. You will find that the horn will no longer be sharp after that but it will be flat. 
Seriously though, do not ever hit any part of your horn with a sledge hammer. Leave the hammering on horns to the professionals. |
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