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Jkobb13 Regular Member
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and only 10 bucks for tickets! _________________ 90% mental
19% air
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Uh oh. No trumpet players this morning. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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EdMann Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 2484 Location: The Big Valley
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Finding the object of a routine has been a true joy in my playing. I've always enjoyed the instrument, but only upon finding the right routines to move me along did I discover how easy it could be... well, relatively. Greatest barometer for me, ability to play split lead in a big band with any of mouthpieces and little fatigue at the end. Now, that's not always the case, but more often now. Particular use of the leadpipe to orient the blow really changed me. Some of what Pops has presented here and Peter Bond have made my playing a pleasure and my wife miserable (at least I do most of the cooking!)
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Brian Moon Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 2785 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: |
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My son never has wanted to practice. He doesn't like practicing anything he just likes to perform. He played piccolo a couple weeks ago though and he is enjoying practicing it. He is going to play pic for his first Solo and Ensemble piece ever. _________________ Either is fine. My chops always feel great
ObamaCare, a massive government takeover, a measure destroying jobs and the economy, a law designed to enslave the American people, an instrument of tyranny in the hands of criminal elitists. |
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 6130 Location: Des Moines
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Brian Moon wrote: | My son never has wanted to practice. He doesn't like practicing anything he just likes to perform. He played piccolo a couple weeks ago though and he is enjoying practicing it. He is going to play pic for his first Solo and Ensemble piece ever. |
Sometimes it takes that one piece of music to light the fire. I have a student to whom I assigned Trumpeter's Lullaby. After a couple weeks of struggling we listened to Doc playing the piece. The kid is on fire. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 6130 Location: Des Moines
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Trumpet fun is driving four high school kids to have their first lesson woith Bill Adam and a bonus with Pat Harbison. Maybe even Mother Bear's. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 5863 Location: New Albany, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Have a safe drive. I'll look forward to seeing you tomorrow. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
Clinical Professor of Jazz Trumpet, University of Illinois
Professor Emeritus of Jazz Studies, Indiana University Jacobs School of Music
Faculty Jamey Aebersold Jazz Workshops 1976-2019
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Jkobb13 Regular Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 29 Location: Eau Claire, WI
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:32 am Post subject: |
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WOW! what a great visit to Bloomington! Got a lesson with Bill Adam! 92 and he stays more focused than everyone in the room after three hours of lessons.
Practice, Persistence, Perseverance, Performance! _________________ 90% mental
19% air
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 6130 Location: Des Moines
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Actually, one of thos Ps should be patience.....but I like the way you think! _________________ Bill Bergren |
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amtrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 341 Location: Western IL
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm making my first trip out to Bloomington to meet Mr. Adam next week. I can't wait!
Aaron |
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gpollack Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Man, in one week, I got a lesson with Mr. Adam, auditioned at Eau Claire, had a symphony concert, and a trumpet recital... All of it is SOOO much fun. Playing trumpet is just great! |
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Just wanted to resurrect this thread. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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Scot New Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2024 Posts: 1 Location: Boston
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Billy B wrote: | Just wanted to resurrect this thread. |
I am glad you did. I studied with Mr. Adam for two years in Bloomington and he changed my life. His approach made me feel better about myself (I arrived in Bloomington with nothing but chops...I had never had a music lesson in my life) and he took me in as a freshman, giving me 1 full hour a week. I learned about the world...and how I might fit into it thanks to him. Now, after about 45 years of not playing, my 1974 Bach Strad is on its way back to me after being refurbished at J Landress Brass in NYC. They even made measurements on the Bach 1C that Mr. Adam gave me after he took a hand drill to it and bored it out three times over. I guess he thought I needed someplace to put all that warm air I had just learned to inhale from my belly button. Now, that's a Pheeno-ME-non. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9112 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know why I'm responding at this late date, but . . .Catharsis?
The subject is why I love playing the trumpet, right? Well, I don't. I love making music with the trumpet, but I don't love the instrument. (Bear with me. I'm not quibbling over words.)
I always had a problem with the physicality of trumpet playing. O'K., I was good enough. First trumpet in Intermediate School, Jr. High and H.S. bands. Even got a special dispensation to play in the All-State H.S. Band when I was a ninth grader. Played in the Lab Bands and Concert Band at North Texas, and professionally for a couple of years.
One day as I was neglecting practicing my trumpet because I had a writing project I had to finish, I glanced over at my horn and thought, you know, if I don't play that thing for three days, it's going to make me play for the next three days just to get back to wkere I started.
Simultaneously, there was a local salvage sale that, for some reason, I went to. Wound up coming back with a fifteen-dollar flute. In no time, whenever I wanted to take a break from my writing, I was playing Bach flute sonatas with no particular warm up on fundamentals. I added alto sax and found myself minoring at the Master Level on woodwinds when ai returned to N.T. I later found myself as a free-lance woodwind player in Germany. After many years, I eventually returned to the states, I had several minor strokes and then two big ones. When I got well enough to play, I couldn't use my left hand, so there went woodwind playing. So, I went back to trumpet.
I have practiced for about five years alone. No bands in my area for me. At first, I probably practiced five or six days a week. Over the years, it's down to little playing. I think if I had the full range of saxes and several different types of flutes and recorders to play, I could still keep up my enthusiasm. But one spends so much tim e just dealing with the physicality of trumpet playing. and with no ensemble to play with and no audience to play for, it's hard to have incentive.
For anyone a little confused, when I answer trumpet-oriented topics, they're credible, just based on what was not what is.
If I could play with other musicians, I would probably be more enthusiastic. As it is now . . . it's hard. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
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tptptp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2001 Posts: 1410 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:41 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: |
if I don't play that thing for three days, it's going to make me play for the next three days just to get back to ground zero. |
I understand this concept.
If I fail to be attentive enough to my wife, contrition heals the situation quickly.
The trumpet is less forgiving. _________________ Craig Mitchell |
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 1029 Location: Europe
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:22 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | one spends so much time just dealing with the physicality of trumpet playing |
Isn't that kind like an 'Uncle Ben' thing though? With great power comes great responsibility; or for the trumpet, you get a lot of infkuence on the pitch, sound and tone, but it takes a lot of time and effort to learn to do so well, and keep doing it.
The 3 valves of the trumpet vs the many holes/keys on a reed instrument are an example of that: it takes serious work to learn to play a similiar range that a reed instrument gets 'out of the box', but the trumpet can also expand their range way beyond that if the player is able to do so.
The physical difficulties of the trumpet are both frustrating as well as what makes it such a great instrument imho. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
1997 Getzen 700SP trumpet
1955 Olds Super cornet
1939 Buescher 280 flugelhorn
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:01 am Post subject: |
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[quote="kehaulani"]
For anyone a little confused, when I answer trumpet-oriented topics, they're credible, ... just based on what was not what is..
" ... what was not what is"
_________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1981 Location: WI
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps one more well-placed comma would make things clearer, as in:
" . . . what was, not what is." _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run" |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow Veteran Member
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Thnx for clarifying that confusing "word-salad". _________________ Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9112 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Man Of Constant Sorrow wrote: | " ... what was not what is" |
What was, not what is.
stuartissimo wrote: | The physical difficulties of the trumpet are both frustrating as well as what makes it such a great instrument imho. |
Depends on if you want to spend a lot on time on finding ways to overcome its physicality or spending more of your time making music. Not saying one's right or one's wrong, just one's preference. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Selmer K-Modified Light Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet |
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