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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Three Valve Getzen Eterna 895 Flugelhorn Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the Getzen specs, which I imagine you've already visited...
http://www.getzen.com/fluegel/eterna/895.shtml

And here's a YouTube of Phil Driscoll playing what I think is a large (.460) bore Getzen flugel. It's the 4 valve Getzen model, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYEBP-9sRKs

Hope it helps. Frankly, I've had two Yamaha pro flugels and have always felt 'stuffed' by the smaller bore configuration. Next time I pick one up I'd like to try a large American bore. Most people on here seem to prefer the smaller bore flugels. Good luck! If you get the horn - let me know. I'll follow the thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Three Valve Getzen Eterna 895 Flugelhorn Reply with quote

bobd0 wrote:
But does the larger bore size compromise the flugel tone I'm looking for?


Well, I guess that depends on what your concept of a flugel tone should be.

IMO, no, it won't, because basically whatever horn you play, you're still going to sound like you.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Getzen three valve circa 1978 and I didn't really care for the sound. Purchased a Yamaha in 1981 Loved the tone and feel of the horn sold that for a New model Olds which I hated cause it had major intonation flaws. . . .sold that for my current horn a Yamaha Bobby Shew model LOVE this instrument. . . .

my recommendation for what its worth!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an 895S circa 2000ish and I can tell you that it does naturally have a "darker" sound than many other flugels I have played, most extensively the Yamaha 631. It is also freer blowing than most other flugels I have played.

Of course, as was previously mentioned, your sound is your own. But I can tell you that if that is the sound you are after, this horn can accommodate it easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have big flugel history , my first flugel was a Yamaha student model back in 1990 , good horn but after some years i start to looking for something better so i order a custom Getzen 895 laq with gold brass bell and trigger , great sound , dark and round but was to big for me and i had some intonations issues so i sold it and i buy a vintage 70's Yamaha 731 and i stop to looking for a new one becose it serves my needs perfect , i only want to add a trigger but overal is a great horn.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobd0 wrote:
The .460 bore won't be an issue for me since I play large bore trumpets and baritone horn,


If you play baritone horn then you will like the Getzen Flugel..
I play a 4-valve Getzen flugel and I love it.. I also play a Getzen bass trumpet and play euphonium occasionally.
For what I play the Flugel for, I want a strong , dark lower register and the Getzen fits that perfectly..
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to follow your recommendation, Paul, but I don't think a Yamaha Shew is in the budget. Thanks for the info though. [/quote]

When the updated Shew flugel (8310Z) and the Bergeron flugel come out next Spring, I'll be there will be more used 6310Z flugels available, and at lower prices.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a Benge 3 when they first came out (1976?), and traded it a year later for a used Getzen 3 valve. Those Getzens are great playing and sounding horns. I only sold it because I had a chance to get the big brother - Getzen 4 Valve. The 4V has a bigger bell, and sounds like:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob, sorry -- I thought I e-mailed you this link the other day -->

http://www.dillonmusic.com/HeleoCart/ProductPage/K36615.aspx
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobd0 wrote:
Hello Giakara! Thanks for the input. The .460 bore won't be an issue for me since I play large bore trumpets and baritone horn, so it's starting to look like the Eterna might fit my needs perfectly as well.

How is our friend, Vaggelis? Does he still play the Al Cass doubler?

Best regards to you both.


Hello , we all o.k , if you feel o.k with big horns this flugel is great just ad a trigger some times i realy want one for my yamaha .
The piece belongs to a friend monster bone player , i sold to him a Getzen capri Bb and now he doubles some times and "steal" from us some studio dates , Vaggelis plays trumpet and with the bone guy we play at Athens big band .

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: I like my Getzen 896. Reply with quote

I have the 896 from around 1990, or so. I really like the sound, but I use a Giardinelli mouthpiece with a very deep "V" cup. That gives me what I consider the sound I was looking for. I don't like the way they sound with shallower mouthpieces. I tried a couple of Yamaha's when I was looking, and they just sounded too much like cornets to my ear. Once I got the slides where I wanted them, the tuning was good.
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