The holly grail.........

giakara · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:49 am Post subject: The holly grail.........

Check this baby fellas

, I relly want it bad.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boston-Musical-Instrment-Co-Cornet-3-Star-Ne-Plus-Ultra_W0QQitemZ110473049373QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBrass_Instruments?hash=item19b8b4f51d

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She is Beautiful!!!!!
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This is indeed the Holy Grail of cornets, in superb shape and with the 1 piece leadpipe.

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giakara · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Re: The holly grail.........

tptptp · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:11 am Post subject:

There are lots of wives. Not so many 3 Stars.

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giakara · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: The holly grail.........

roynj · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2065

This Boston cornet looks like it has a set of Benge finger buttons on it, but I could be mistaken. I'm just sayin'. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

razeontherock · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject:

Just tell your wife it's the HOLLY grail, necessary for a Holly Jolly Christmas.

missmybaby · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject:

Buy it. Then play your lovely wife a beautiful ballad with it. And don't forget the flowers, douchebag...

markp · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:

Looks promising.

Before you drop a load of dough, go back and check Tom Turner's posts about this model in the archives.

Can't recall exactly, but it seems to me that Tom says the very best ones are a little younger than this one--around 1913--1915.

There is still time, and maybe he could weigh in with his thoughts.

If I could be convinced that this is one of the best players (collecting pretty artifacts that don't play up to state-of-the art standards is not my bag), I may use some of my Christmas money and try my luck.

Bourbon City · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject:

I have one of these but with a two piece lead pipe. This one makes mine look really bad and mine is in very good condition. This Cornet could go for more than 1200 USD. I would sure get your bid in on this one.

I am unemployed and now broke, otherwise I would be bidding myself.
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missmybaby · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject:

I stand by what I said before. If I had the cash, I'd buy the sumbitch myself!

tom turner · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject:

tom turner · Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject:

Another mild concern about this "original" 3-Star is the case.

Although it looks mighty similar to the original Boston 3-Star case of the 1911-1914 time frame, a LOT of makes of horns used this basic case supplier back then and the internals would be tailored for a specific horn.

BOTH of my two 1911 era 3-Stars (serial numbers less than 260 apart), with the one pictured below less than fifty numbers apart from the one in the auction) have identical cases. The one in the ad differs in how the horn is held both my cases have identical 3-hole mouthpiece/bit holders plus the red-brown "lube tin" holder seen under the crook of the horn in my photo.

Yes, the ebay horn IS 40 something numbers older than my oldest 1911 specimen and yes, Boston could have spec'ed a different case for that horn, and yes, cases COULD have been an option . . . so yes, the case in the auction COULD be original. Maybe.

BTW: The case is UPSIDE DOWN in my photo. The green area with the Boston gold banner is actually the underside of the case's lid.

The horn was loosely put in "place" for the quick photo, and I didn't snap the green strap that crosses over the valve casings in their middle area to hold the horn securely to the case's valve block area.

Inetresting trivia maybe for some, I hope . . .

In any event, the ebay horn looks really nice . . . exactly the kind to bid on if one is a serious player and desires a really fine PLAYING Boston 3-Star. I'd never waste my time on any "beater" vintage cornet. Instead, I look for pristine specimens that were never abused. These are the ones that will usually play in a manner representative of what the original horns would do in any make's line-up.

Hope this helps,

Tom

BTW . . . I know a fellow who has an absolutely perfect, AS NEW 3-Star that his professional uncle owned late in his career as a featured cornetist. Gold plated Botson mouthpieces and all, with zero nicks or even micro "scratches" to the surface of the horn's 100% finish to hint that it was not just made YESTERDAY. It includes a full "kit" inside the case (all originally supplied slides, mouthpieces, etc AND the lube tin that's always missing!).

He once put it on ebay to get an idea how much this incredible top-of-the-line and state-of-the-art artist's instrument was worth. He put a staggering "reserve" price on the horn so it wouldn't sell . . . and bidding got to nearly $4,000 by the last second snipers! WOW, WHAT A SPECIMEN . . . it made my really nice ones look . . . emmmm . . . like a "perfect" 50,000-mile car next to a brand new one.

plp · Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:03 am Post subject:

Wow, if that isn't an indicator of the present state of the economy, I don't know what is.

It sold for LESS than 1500 dollars, and I certainly hope it went to a TH'er, what an incredible deal.
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razeontherock · Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:50 am Post subject:

Why do I sense there's more to this story?

And whoever the new propud owner is better 'fess up!!

Man would I like to compare one of these to my all original Association Generale (or whatever it is that got bought up by Couesnon pre-1905)
Tom, if you ever come out Chicago way give me a shout - I'm even getting a standard Warburton shank for it ... just to tempt you

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