Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: And now, Cornet in F
The Dutch musician Gerard van Reenen plays these two pieces (Bach aria and Danny Boy - Londonderry Air) on cornet and organ simultaneously. The cornet is made by Getzen and is an Eterna 800 with huge extensions to all slides (exceeding the Bb slide lengths by ca. 1.5x) and making it into a cornet in F.
Now, there is a way to achieve that elusive 1800s sound with contemporary instruments ... he is using a French horn mouthpiece, too.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:20 am Post subject:
I feel compelled to comment on this and, with no wish to offend anybody, I find it difficult to make any positive observations............
Firstly, what is the point of this doubtful excercise please? Is it true that; there was no way to "...achieve that elusive 1800s sound with contemporary instruments" ....? IS this a true representation of '1800's sound'..? If it is, do we really want to revive it? Would it not be better to allow the veil of time to cover it's basic untunefulness.....?
If this 'thing' is now in 'F' and uses a horn mpc why not use a real instrument, or better still, a tenor horn in Eb (itself an instrument unchanged since the late 1800's)
Lastly, ...I have come across the 'weird instrument' fraternity several times over the years and they are always hampered by lack of musicianship and technique (just an observation!) If I allowed the kids I instruct to use the sound shapes in teh first clip then I would NOT expect them to ever become accomplished!! ......
...........Perhaps I'm wrong, so someone please educate me asap!
My point was that by adding inadequate lengths of tubing and using a wrong mouthpiece, one can achieve a consistent out-of-tune sound. Which by lucky/unlucky coincidence might be the 1800s feel, though even this is not certain (hence, elusive).
I wish the performer concentrated on one instrument. Either this "alto cornet" needs a lot of slide triggering to be in tune, or it is completely out of tune with itself and no amount of triggering will help (if the partials are not lining up, that is).
Yes, Bob, I agree that a tenor horn in F would be vastly better. Not that he could (at present) sound as good as this gentleman:
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject:
Bob Stevenson wrote:
Lastly, ...I have come across the 'weird instrument' fraternity several times over the years and they are always hampered by lack of musicianship and technique (just an observation!)
Surely, the esteemed cucumber trumpet would be the exception to this rule.
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