Flip Oakes Extreme Flugelhorn mouthpiece series

[shofarguy]

Okay, all of you serious Flugelhorn soloists out there, I have just received word from Flip that he will have the first shipment of Extreme Flugelhorn mouthpieces in stock and ready to ship this Monday.

This shipment is of French taper shanks only, however Mark Curry is sending prototypes of both Morse tapers as well. So if Flip is satisfied with them, production will begin on those, too.

I understand that Flip will have all of his usual sizes in stock, so take a look at his website under accessories to see if your size is listed. If you have tried his standard flugelhorn mouthpieces, you are already familiar with the rim shape that Flip specifies. This rim is very comfortable on the lips, with enough bite for accuracy, but soft enough for long sets.

The graphic below shows both Flip's standard series and the new Extreme Flugelhorn in cross section for comparison. For those of you who are new to Flip's designs, even his standard line has been called "extreme" by some. Obviously, his new series takes the concept a giant step further.



Don't be put off by the look of these new pieces! I was taken by surprise the first time I saw one of Flip's hand-made versions, but I asked to play it, anyway. I was so "blown away", I had to have him make me one, too. These few one-offs came to be known as "The Swirling Vortex of Terror!" mouthpieces and are treasured by the players who have them.

Now, you can buy a fully developed and perfected version. The Extreme Flugelhorn mouthpiece for the serious soloist. There is nothing like it on the market, that I am aware of. And nothing else will give you such a velvety smooth flugel sound.

If you are interested in pricing and shipping details, contact Flip via email or phone.

flip@flipoakes.com

760-643-1501
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Brian A. Douglas

Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper


There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds.

[Flip Oakes]

Introductory, Limited Supply, Now Available, and in stock!!

Flip Oakes Wild Thing Extreme Flugelhorn Mpcs. $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping......

At This Time French Tapers only ! Available in all sizes

#FO Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .695" Flip Oakes Personal Model ( Largest Cup )
#1 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .680"
#1.25 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .672"
#1.5 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .670"
#3 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .666"
#5 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .659"
#7 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .653"
#10.5 Flugelhorn Mpc.,@ .626" ( Smallest Cup )


All The Best,

Flip Oakes

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Flip Oakes
2559 Mottino Dr.
Oceanside, Ca. 92056-3421
760-643-1501
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To Hear the Flip Oakes Wild Thing Trumpet go to
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[crzytptman]

[ConnArtist]

Looking quite forward to a Bach-taper version...
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[shofarguy]

[qcm]

You know, it's funny. I have a Flip Oakes cornet mouthpiece on it's way back from Kanstul that I had plated, and I was just thinking last night, especially since I'm starting to do a far amount of flugel playing right now, that maybe I should give Flip a call about a new flugel mouthpiece.

I played Brian's mouthpiece at Kanstul. He had me try a traditional flugel piece first and then his Vortex. (was that a 1025 flugel I was playing Brian?) I really liked the sound of the Vortex a lot.

I have a great LA Benge FL3 flugel which has a yellow brass bell, so I suspect the Vortex would work well with it, although the Benge has a large morse taper. So I may have to wait awhile.

-Dave
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Kanstuls, LA Benges and a Selmer picc.

[shofarguy]

[butxifxnot]

You know, this would have been perfect timing if it came in a standard/yamaha shank. ^_^ Any estimations of timing?
As it is, I may go ahead and flip (...I didn't just say that ) for the regular flugel cups.
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[Flip Oakes]

We are working on the Morse Tapers today, so it should be very soon, Perhaps 10-14 days or so.


All The Best,

Flip Oakes

Flip Oakes
“Wild Thing Trumpets”
COME AND HEAR THE DIFFERENCE
http://www.flipoakes.com

“To read what Wild Thing Owners say about their horns, click on this”
http://www.flipoakes.com/testimonials.htm

Flip Oakes
2559 Mottino Dr.
Oceanside, Ca. 92056-3421
760-643-1501
760-643-1511 Fax

To Hear the Flip Oakes Wild Thing Trumpet go to
http://www.flipoakes.com/multimedia.htm


View Arturo Sandoval LIVE ! on YouTube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u2Mo6L3iGvM&feature=related

[shofarguy]

Oh, MAN,

I got word that my new Extreme Flugelhorn mouthpiece is on the way. I'll try it out and compare it to my standard Flip Oakes 3FL. I can hardly wait to see how Mark stamped the new piece, so I can refer to it a little easier!

Hey, I want you guys to know something. I haven't got Flip's permission to share this, but in case there are any naysayers reading this, I want to make something public.

I asked via email if it would be helpful for me to have one of each of the Morse taper versions so I could try them out in different horns to see how they worked and report on them. Flip said that it was important that he be the one to play each model of flugelhorn with the appropriate version to make sure this new mouthpiece played in tune, gave a good scale and sounded good.

He listed numerous Kanstul, Yamaha, Benge and Getzen models that he is testing (or soon will be) with various mouth pipes in each horn to make sure which version gives the best result. He is working hard to determine whether any challenges he may encounter are sourced in the horn and it's original condition, or this new mouthpiece. The bottom line is that Flip insists that what he sells works for the player who is buying his products. He wants to be confident that when he makes a recommendation, it is valid and beneficial.

That's good for all of us.

Brian
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Brian A. Douglas

Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper


There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds.

[tom turner]

That's the kind of guy Flip is. It has to be right, or it doesn't hit the market. Same way on the delayed introduction of his fluglehorn back around 2001/early 2002. He held back past the anticipated release date in order to keep really dialing things in. Lots of buzz on this forum (and it's earlier incarnation before that in early 2001) about when this much anticipated horn would be coming out.

He told me back then that he waited until it was perfect . . . and it is.

I'm sure it is that way too with the various versions of the flugle mouthpiece. When the smoke settles I'm going to ask him if he will cut off my favorite fluglehorn mouthpiece's rim and graft it to his new design. He'll tell me no if it won't work, but I'll bet it will be super if he can match it to the proper size mouthpiece he'll make.

I love the new taper to the flugle mouthpiece's "funnel," but my chops don't like Bach rims. Using my rim (about a .660 I.D.) would give me the feel of the rim I need, with a mouthpiece that I believe I'd like a whole lot. I'm wanting a darker sound than my current mouthpiece gives me, but love the rim. I've been playing this fluglehorn mouthpiece since 1972.

Thanks Brian, for keeping us informed.

Tom

[shofarguy]

Okay,

I received my Flip Oakes WT X3 in the mail today. I immediately took it into my bedroom where I keep my horns and tried it on my WT Flugelhorn alongside my Vortex 1-1/2 and FO standard 3FL. A few quick observations:

The shank fits very closely into the receiver, which as been a little loose on his previous versions of the French taper. Flip told me this is one detail he asked Mark Curry to address, and Mark has done a very nice job with these shanks.

The blank on this mouthpiece is shorter than the standard style by about 1/4". I assume this is to open the back bore up a bit, or shorten the bore length.

Finish is impeccable!

Sound wise, this model has a more solid core to the sound, when compared with my hand-made Vortex. This is probably due to the decrease in bore from 1/4" to the current size (though the final size is still very large, somewhere between a #1 and #2 drill). It may also be simply because my Vortex is hand-made and relatively crude in comparison. Certainly these production pieces will be very consistent, whereas the Vortex pieces were very individual.

So, does the denser core destroy the velvety sound? No, I don't think so. I have played it only in a bedroom, but later I'll take my horns back down to my church sanctuary and really give it a go.

I expect the X3 to have better slotting in the upper range, a better scale and more consistent timbre throughout the range of the instrument. We'll see how it turns out and I'll report back.

Some of you have already purchased copies for yourselves. Please feel free to jump on in and give your own impressions, good or bad, so I'm not the only one.

Brian
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Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper


There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds.

[butxifxnot]

Waiting with bad breath for the yamaha/large morse taper.

I'm also interested to know how far you can take it volume-wise without diminishing the velvet sound it seems you're getting.
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[mcahynuacrkd]

My Calicchio flugelhorn has the Large morse "standard" taper.
I currently uses a Curry 80 fld and love it, but I bet the new Flip Oakes Wild Thing Extreme Flugelhorn Mouthpiece is even better!
Can't wait to try out a size # 1 !
Way to go Flip!
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[shofarguy]

[Robson]

[shofarguy]

[ljazztrm]

I've only had my 101/2 extreme for a few days, but I want to echo a lot of what Brian (shofarguy) is saying. Slotting, ease of play, intonation, snug taper fit, etc. These things are spot on. (Remember this is Mark Curry we're dealing with who makes these). You might think at looking at the piece that intonation and slotting would be squirrely...not at all the case. Before this piece, my favorite flugel piece was the traditional WT model with a washer inside it. Now it is this piece. When I took some Gorilla Glue and glued the washer inside my cup...well, I was getting even more of a beautiful airy-ness to my sound.

For when I am able to control the volume and/or micing situation I'm in, this is the flugel mouthpiece for me. I can't use either my traditional WT flugel piece or this one in louder situations..I have a few other good ones for that though

p.s. - Believe it or not, I have the same range on this mouthpiece too as on any other mouthpiece..You might not think so to look inside the cup!
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[Trptbenge]

I play a Kanstul Chicago flugelhorn and it takes a Bach taper. I look forward to Flip having the Bach tapers in stock.

Mike
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