Roger Ingram Model Jupiter XO Trumpet 1600I

Yammie · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: Still geeking...

Sorry to prattle on and on, but tonight I'm cleaning the horn out thoroughly and relubing everything, and the second valve slide is also an over-under configuration like all the other slides on the horn. Very nice detail, one I've only seen on the Eric Miyashiro EM8340 (though I'm confident it originated on some vintage horn from long ago...and that someone here will tell me what that first horn was!

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trumpmac · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject:

Yammie,
Any way you can post a bunch of pics? The one on Jupiters site is nice but is also what all dealers I've seen so far have. Would love to see more angles and different perspecives.
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'10 lacquer 1600i
'73 Silver Bach 37/180
'58 Conn Director Coprion
Dillon Rose Brass Bell Flugel

ws tpt · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:17 pm Post subject: 1600i Ingram Jupiter

LD Woods wrote:

The other horn I have been itching to try is the Callet Sima. Has anyone played the Sima and the 1600i. Even better, how do either of them compare to the Calicchio DT?
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Larry,

I have played a friend's Callet Sima quite a bit (several hours over the past year or so, in both lacquer and silver)- and Roger's own 1600i last month during a lesson and Jay Daversa's Calicchio Trigg model. The 1600i is, to me, the better horn. Mine is on order as of early this week.

The Sima, with its heavier gauge bell may have just a touch more as far as overtones in the sound. It is also significantly more expensive-$2750 vs $1295 for iHorn. I had about 20-30 minutes on Roger's horn while he took care of some business prior to our lesson and believe that it will work well for me. I attended a masterclass when Mike Vax and the orchestra come through our sate several years ago. Jay was kind enough to let me try his horn out (at the time, I was playing a 6310Z) and while I remember it being very nice (I am sure DT likes it and Jay as well), just not my cup of tea. Again, I really expect that the 1600i will more than likely become my primary Bb. When I tried Roger's horn, I played it with all of my mpcs and it responded very well. I will probably keep my Kanstul Destino-it is a special horn to me, but am expecting to sell more of my Bb's when the iHorn arrives. Hope this is helpful.

WS tpt

jazzothman · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject:

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AMEN! And if the price quoted on here in lacquer from Dillon's is right I'll be ordering one ASAP! And I second what Yammie's been saying. I hope you're getting a piece of this pie Roger.

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Just went on Dillon's site, and they have it listed for $1600+... Hope they will still sell for the lower price... I'm calling in the morning...[/quote]

That's what Pro Winds has it for. Knew it was too good to be true...

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Hi Interfx and trumpmac I have just ordered one from Dillon music last night. The price I quote is correct. They have already sold 2 silver plated trumpet on the day I wrote in the TH. The horn are back ordered they don't have it in stock right now. Jim's at Dillon music who is also a trumpet player told me that the horn was professional assemble and play great. Their website has not been updated yet. Pls contact them directly. Just for your infor I'm from Singapore a small city with a red dot on the map and I highly recommend you to buy from Dillon. I have been their customer for more than 20 years.

trumpmac · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject:

Yammie · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:10 am Post subject: Sure

Doug,

I'll snap a bunch of pics this weekend and post them while it's still got that new horn smell

Bill
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trumpmac · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:25 am Post subject:

Thanks Bill!

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'10 lacquer 1600i
'73 Silver Bach 37/180
'58 Conn Director Coprion
Dillon Rose Brass Bell Flugel

Lance Asparagus · Regular Member Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 31

I called KHS and they said they've only received one shipment of these horns so far, with another on the boat as we speak. Unfortunately, he said also that after this shipment comes in (mid-late april), the next one will be arriving in mid June.

Manuel de los Campos · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: ?

Gentlemen, did I miss something? What on earth are " True Bore Insert Sleeves" ?

And Yammie, is the taper of the bell of your 1600 i a fast taper or a slow taper?

greetings from Amsterdam, Manuel.
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jonalan · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: Re: ?

Yammie · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: Photos

I am no match for some of the trumpet photo wizards here and on eBay, but I wanted to snap a few quick ones as placeholders - I'll get better photos up ASAP.

They are at:http://tinyurl.com/yammie

[Preview URL is http://preview.tinyurl.com/yammie ]

Manuel, regarding bell taper, my impression is it's more on the 37 end of things than the 72 or Wild Thing, but I'll need to look at it side-by-side with some of the fleet to come up with better comparisons.
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6340S, Connstellation 36B, 38B, 38A, and 28A, Couesnon flugel, Blackburn C, Kanstul/Besson 920 picc, and a HUGE pile of Messina Covers gig bags

Yammie · Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: Hmmm

I thought I already posted this, but I'm not seeing it. Could be PEBKAC (problem exists between keyboard and chair) again...

Anyway, since I brought it up here, I wanted to mention that Jupiter sent the True Bore inserts to me immediately. I got a package containing two sets - 1/4" long, and 1/2" long, along with a brass hook (they call it a crochet hook) for removal, and a two page set of instructions written by Roger.

So thanks, Jupiter (and Roger)! I appreciate the speedy customer service. I'll post again once I have the chance to test them.

Bill
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6340S, Connstellation 36B, 38B, 38A, and 28A, Couesnon flugel, Blackburn C, Kanstul/Besson 920 picc, and a HUGE pile of Messina Covers gig bags

jonalan · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject:

Yammie · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject: Yep

jazzothman · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject:

The price is still the same as was given to me by Jim. I have ordered one in lacquer at $ 1245 from Dillon music. I know they have already put up the ad at their website. To get the real answer is best you contact Jim.

ldwoods · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject:

Check out the pricing at Washington Music.

I ordered mine today from them.
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Bruin · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Photos

jonalan · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject:

Yammie · Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: Lacquer

jonalan · Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject:

So Yammie, now that you've had a couple of weeks under your belt, what are your thoughts on the horn?
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