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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8925 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Good Drum Corp can be unimaginably powerful AND musical. No doubt some guys overreach and produce noise trying to reach thoses heights. But once you've experienced the rush it can be very seductive. Don't discount it until you've seen a champion corp in top form. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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Fleebat Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2058 Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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In the 70s I saw the Kilties (sp?), Santa Clara Vanguard, Phantom Regiment, Cavs and many others. It impressed me then, and still does, as one of the least-musical "music" forms on earth. I think it's great that some people like it, but it strikes me as ridiculous. There is nothing whatsoever that drew me to playing music in the first place that I can find in it. Not a single element. And in the marginal corps I played in for one season, the macho, competitive, higher/faster/louder thing was a real turn-off for me. People would salivate over someone hitting a high note, or a bunch of someones if we were watching one of the heavy corps perform. Didn't matter whether the note fit, or if the tone was blatty, or it was overbalanced or out of tune - it was high, so it was cool. Yuk.
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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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bike&ed Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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oxleyk wrote: | A man's got to know his limitations.
Harry Callahan |
LOL!!!!
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James B. Quick Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 2067 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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A trumpet player needs blood circulating to his brain? What's next? Drummers that can count? jbq |
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Fleebat Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2058 Location: Nashville, TN
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 2174 Location: Little Elm, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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When I was in high school marching band, our motto was "put your breakfast on the press box."
I still have scars on my chops. _________________ Bryan Fields
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1991 Bach LR180 ML 37S
1999 Getzen Eterna 700S
1977 Getzen Eterna 895S Flugelhorn
1969 Getzen Capri cornet
1995 UMI Benge 4PSP piccolo trumpet
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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Fleebat Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Disagree, Dave. In the vernacular, as with old-school showbiz pros, who "killed" with the crowd, the term seems to serve well for me. Not at all like "killing" a note. He entertains with his artistry. Grabs the crowd and makes them feel good. He kills. Semantics. Described in any terms, Roy Agee is one of the most musical human beings I've met.
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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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garrett901 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 1248 Location: Vacaville CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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We will be playing our book this year at DCA Mini Corps Competition. Friday night, Sep 3rd in Rochester NY. Come on out and hear a great MIX of different styles, from classical to jazz, pop etc... All done with brass instruments only (drums too). Trust me, were VERY musical and take great pride in the quality of our sound. You just might be surprised at what you hear. You will be surprised at what excites the crowd. Drum Corps as a whole is in a quandary right now. Most audience opinion is that we are getting away from what makes Drum and Bugle Corps, what it was (is). The Freelancers Alumni are trying to bring it back... So far, we get the best crowd response of ANY Corps on the field. Last month we had a fellow come up to us (as we were playing) with tears in his eyes professing that he thought that the music we were doing was all but dead and gone. He was so appreciative of what we were doing, it was heart warming.
Music IS universal communication, and we pride ourselves in full spectrum musical performance. That day, we made his day, and he made ours. Weather you like that type of musical performance or not, nothing can take away the special communication we shared. Isn't that what its all about? _________________ Jeff Garrett
Playing "G" Soprano Bugle, Freelancers Alumni/Mini Corps
NorCal Horn Line Instructor/Musical Arranger
Kanstul G Soprano (Powerbore Bell)
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INTJ Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 1986 Location: Northern Idaho
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there is manly music and girly-man music. Guess which category DCI music falls into............. _________________ Harrels VPS Summit
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mikeman7 Veteran Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 456 Location: Portland, Or.
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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afp wrote: | Well, there is manly music and girly-man music. Guess which category DCI music falls into............. |
judging by the pretty costumes....i'm going with girl-man!!!
hey marching band types, stop trying to make music a competitive sport!! it's Art!
out, _________________ Late,
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INTJ Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it's not suprising a sax player would be confused about what is girly and what isn't........................ _________________ Harrels VPS Summit
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mikeman7 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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afp wrote: | I guess it's not suprising a sax player would be confused about what is girly and what isn't........................ |
LOL. classic. _________________ Late,
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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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INTJ Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 1986 Location: Northern Idaho
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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mikeman7 wrote: | afp wrote: | I guess it's not suprising a sax player would be confused about what is girly and what isn't........................ |
LOL. classic. |
Well at least two of us are having fun with this.................... _________________ Harrels VPS Summit
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Capt.Kirk Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Do yourself a favor if you ignore everything I say at least listen to this bit of advice.
Go to Amazon.com order a book call Isometric Power Revolution by John e. Peterson you have to look for the SPiral bound version as the soft cover is no longer sold. It is about $34 follow any one of the programs in their. It will take you about 15 minute-20 minutes a day.
Start walking 15 minutes a day everyday and slowly speed up the pace you walk at not so much the time. So 15 minutes of walking a day and 15-20 minutes of Isometrics a day.... IN one month I can gurantee you will feel the difference and start to see a difference and your playing will improve.
The isometrics will build your strength,speed and ramp up your metabolism. It will also train your body to handle blood pressure spikes. Blood Pressure Spikes are not dangerous when training as long as you do not hold your breath.
The 15 minutes of brisk walking will increase your bodies production of aerobic enzymes,lower pulse, improve cholest. profile and build heart and lung coordination and capacity.
In 6-12 weeks time your resting pulse rate will drop and your blood pressure will improve. Get the book and read it their is a lot of bad information and 1/2 truths in the public domain and inthe medical field about Isometrics. Their is actually a blood pressure control method that is based on isometrics that was invented by two Doctors and is well documented and tested to work but it is not well known. Most people think Isometrics are bad for people with High Blood Presure but these people mis-understand how the body works all physical exertion cause's spikes in blood pressure.
The other method that does not require any gear at all as in weights, machines or the like is called VRT and was created by Greg Mangan in the USA and something simalar called Loadless Traininig was invented in the FOrmer USSR ie Russia.... It produces results much like weight lifting and is dynamic not at all static like Isometrics. See Link:
http://www.vrtsystem.com/aboutVRT.shtml
I have weights,bow flex,kettle bells and a bunch of other gear yet I use the above often when on the road or injured or for rehab etc......I am fat and need to go on a diet but my cardiovascular health is almost on par with elite cyclist as tested by a complete cardio work up 2 years ago. I am also strong as an ox......So even if you are not ready to diet and lose weight you need to keep your muscles,bones,heart and lungs in good shape! _________________ The only easy day was yesterday! |
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garrett901 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 1248 Location: Vacaville CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I agree Captain... The better shape your in both aerobic and strength wise, the better player you'll be. Especially when playing high energy physically demanding music. I have a birthday coming up this month and I'll be 48. Between the stenosis in my neck, the sciatic problems in my lower back, the 3 pounds of metal I'm carrying around in my rt leg and my high blood pressure, I like to tell folks that its not the age, It's the mileage ! _________________ Jeff Garrett
Playing "G" Soprano Bugle, Freelancers Alumni/Mini Corps
NorCal Horn Line Instructor/Musical Arranger
Kanstul G Soprano (Powerbore Bell)
Yamaha YTR-739T
Xtream XZ w/ XXX backbore GREAT MP!!!
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carltrumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 530 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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And on the tune 'You're Still a Young Man' no less --- that's some irony there. A couple of years ago we were performing that and the singer had a long coughing fit in the middle of it. I think the song might be cursed....and I'm glad you're OK. |
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