Calicchio flugelhorn!

trptown · Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: Calicchio flugelhorn!

I just got my new Calicchio flugelhorn and it is incredible! It’s the copper belled version crafted by master horn builder John Duda. I my opinion a flugel should be approached like the unusual beast that it is and should respond that way. With an effortless dark, rich, warm sound. John captured those qualities and much more! The intonation is spot on without a thought of any chop calisthenics. The valve action is as smooth as glass.

I played a session on it yesterday where the producer was looking for a few muted trumpet solos… after hearing this flugelhorn, I only used the harmon on one track! The engineer said he’d never heard a flugel so in tune! I highly recommend this horn to any serious trumpet player looking that true flugel sound of years gone by.

The funny thing about this is that my daily driver is a Calicchio S1S trumpet, which has one of the deepest richest tone I’ve ever played. More flugel-ish sounding than most trumpets throughout the range of the horn! Calicchio has captured the true essence of theses horns. John, you’re the best! Thank you Calicchio for making my life a lot easier!
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Robson · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:18 am Post subject:

Just for curious. Have you tried the Kanstul 1525 before buying the Calicchio?

If the answer is Yes. Why the Calicchio is better?

Thank you
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trptown · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject:

Good question Robson. Yes, Kanstul's 1525 is a fabulous playing horn all right. Once I met John at Calicchio and experienced his passion for building horns... the Kanstul didn't stand a chance.
Overall the way each horn played? I still would have to pick the Calicchio. There's just something about Calicchio's dark but warm/rich sound. That's my opinion.
~Terry

Robson · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject:

trptown · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:

Hey Robson,

I realize there are not many Tulsa Calicchios out there for you to try, but if you could find on and 'A'-'B' it with the Kanstul, that would be best. Everyone has their own opinion about how a horn feels and plays.
Call Dave Johnson at Calicchio (918-743-4922) and talk to him a bit. He's a nice guy and a great player himself. He might be able to tell you where you could try one in your area.
I hope this helps in your journey.

~Terry

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unctrumpeter · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject:

anybody want a kanstul 1525

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JYTrumpetSounds · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:46 pm Post subject:

Terry, please post some pics of your horn. Would love to look at it. Not to many pics of those horns. May look into getting one some day. I have a Calicchio Trumpet i just got for a great deal. Just trying to learn more about the company. Thanks alot
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Arbanator · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: Case

Have you had any luck finding a case that fits the Calicchio copper flugel? There doesn't seem to be a ready made to fit it because of the bell size, and I've been reluctant to drop the $$ for a custom-made case.

ChopsGone · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1793

I don't own a Calicchio flugelhorn (yet), but my ZKF-1525 fits easily into a ProTec trumpet/flugelhorn case, and my Adams (even larger bell) fits nicely into a ProTec single flugelhorn case.
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Arbanator · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:04 am Post subject:

Thanks. The Calicchio is too tall to fit in the single flug Pro-tec case. In the flug/trumpet Pro-Tec case, it fits barely (that's what I'm using), but the bell comes to the very edges of the case, and I'm concerned that there's not enough protection there. I forget the exact dimensions of the bell when I measured it, but it is in the range of 6 1/2 inches across.

ChopsGone · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1793

Strange. John must have changed something. The last I heard, he was using a 6" bell on his flugelhorn, compared to the 6-1/2" of the ZKF-1525 and what appears to be 170mm/6-11/16" for the Adams (approximately 10" from top of bell to bottom of bell curve). I've even got a 1920's Boosey flugelhorn in a ProTec single. It might be worth checking dimensions on the hard case that is normally sold with the ZKF-1525. I don't know of a case offhand that's much larger, but maybe John will have an idea. If not, you may just have to leave it out and play it a lot. Things could be worse.
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RandyTX · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:01 am Post subject:

I'm using the Kanstul sourced "Deluxe Gladstone Hard Shell" case for my 1525 flugel. It's a very well made case in my opinion, but I'd say that unless the bell on the Callichio is either smaller or the same size diameter, or "lower" on the horn relative to the valve block, it might not fit in that case.
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ChopsGone · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1793

I stand corrected on the Calicchio bell size - for the copper one, it is 6.5". Sorry for the confusion. It doesn't appear that the proportions are that drastically different, when compared to the Adams, but without measurements, I'm just guessing. If it weren't for the recess in the lid above the valve area, the Adams wouldn't fit the ProTec single, either. Maybe the Torpedo Coyote with the Snarl lid, whenever that gets into production, but that's a lot of case to lug around for one horn.
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nieuwguyski · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject:

I have a Hollywood Calicchio Copper flugelhorn, and the only hard case I have that it fits in is a Walt Johnson trpt/flug double case. I ordered the Johnson case after I bought the Calicchio, so it was made for the Calicchio outline.

I also have a very early Olds L-12 flugelhorn, and it fits in the WJ case perfectly -- better than the Calicchio, to tell the truth. So maybe the L-12 owners out there could suggest possibilities.

I have a Torpedo Coyote with the Snap lid, and the Calicchio doesn't fit. I think the "Snap Plus" lid (a quarter-inch taller than the Snap) *might* work, but it's too expensive an experiment for me to risk -- I'm waiting for the Snarl lid.

I keep meaning to call a buddy of mine with a Kanstul Chicago flugel, to see if he got it with a case. If he did, I'll see if the Calicchio fits.
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Arbanator · Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:45 am Post subject:

thanks for the responses. I did ask John, and he suggested Walt Johnson, but that's molto $$$$. I guess I may have to bite that bullet, though.

classicrocker1991 · Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:05 am Post subject:

Are there any thoughts anyone has on Couesnon Flugels? I got a 50-year old one here and I love it and here that it's pretty popular when it comes to flugels.
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nieuwguyski · Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:45 am Post subject:

So my buddy didn't get a case with his Kanstul Chicago flugel. He did get a Protec 314 flugel case for it, which he showed me, but... well... we were running late for the rehearsal I got him to sub for, so there was no chance to try to stuff my Calicchio into the Protec. It looked promising, though.
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