• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

How do you pronounce Couesnon?



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Horns
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
heavyharmonies
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 12 Jul 2003
Posts: 563
Location: Urbana, IL

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't speak Froggish, so I'm not entirely sure.

My gut impulse is Koo-eh-NON (with the second N in NON being almost silent) or KOO-eh-non.

T'anx,

-Dan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Jarrett Ellis
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Posts: 649

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer just to "redneck-ize" everything... helps for us foreign relaytuns
Cuse'non? WHatsat same kinda new fayngled adickshun programs?
-Jarrett
Just kidding... I think your right.
_________________
Eclipse Medium Bell Scratch Gold
Bach 37H Gold Plate
Bach 3c
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Balt58
Regular Member


Joined: 17 Dec 2001
Posts: 39
Location: Orlando

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pronounced "Kwee-non". That's the way it was listed in phonetics in their old Gretch ads in the 60's.
_________________
"Actors find God. Musicians find jazz..."

Tulsa Calicchio RR37 w/GR 3HC* & GR 3S
Cousenon Copper Monopole Flugel w/Flip Oakes F0
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
trickg
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 02 Jan 2002
Posts: 5675
Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also heard it pronounced "Quay-non", but yeah, I think the more common pronunciation is "kwee-non"
_________________
Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler

"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
musiclifeline
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 07 Nov 2002
Posts: 1045
Location: New Orleans, LA

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicknamed "Queenie" by those owning or seeking one.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
jhatpro
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 17 Mar 2002
Posts: 10202
Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, here's one for you. A friend asked me to try to sell his Noblet clarinet for him. I don't even know how to pronounce it. Is it No-BLET as in clari-NET, OR No-BLAY (as in clari-NAY)?
_________________
Jim Hatfield

"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus

2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
MarkHeuer
Veteran Member


Joined: 18 May 2003
Posts: 221

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always said "kwee-suh-non".

I guess I was wrong.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
gus
Veteran Member


Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 452

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koo-es-non

Not sure if the s is silent or not. But the first
sylabe is oo for sure.

Gus
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
_FELIX C
Veteran Member


Joined: 05 Mar 2003
Posts: 422
Location: PUERTO RICO

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard ku-son,
I pronounce coues-non
Thanks
_________________
God's Peace be with all you!!!!!!!!
Kanstul Chicago 1001
GR65M
Benge 3X+
Benge 3 Flugelhorn
Schilke 14F4
I use my Personal Blend of Valve Oil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
musiclifeline
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 07 Nov 2002
Posts: 1045
Location: New Orleans, LA

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it really is "KWEE-non".
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Tom K.
Veteran Member


Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 483

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But WHAT the queen is on is another matter...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
David
Veteran Member


Joined: 22 Nov 2002
Posts: 379

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I've always heard "queen on"
_________________
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
lonelyangel
Veteran Member


Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Posts: 286
Location: london

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kway-no(n). The second n is not really sounded and the o is like the o sound in orange.
That's how we say it in Blighty and we are only 20 odd miles away from La France - any french THers to clear this up?
By the way Couesnon flugels are THE instrument of choice amongst London's session players. In particular the Bill Lewington models imported by the shop of the same name (sadly closed down some years ago - leaving the West End bereft of any serious brass outlet) during the 1960s. One of these in good condition should easily fetch $1500!!

Noel L'Anglais.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
trumpetmike
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Posts: 11314
Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monsieur L’Anglais
Bon
That’s the way I have been told to pronounce it. Admittedly I am English (so know nothing about French), but I have been assured (by people that would know) that we are correct.
I have one of their 3 valve piccolos and it is fantastic for playing the piccolo parts in quintets. It is even better for when playing the Penny Lane solo.
_________________
If we are not making music, what is the point?

Yamaha Bb 6335HS (Najoom leadpipe)
Yamaha Rotary Bb
F Besson C (Najoom leadpipe)
Yamaha Eb 6610S
Scherzer G
F Besson Piccolo
Yamaha Maestro Bb Cornet
Eclipse Copper Flugel
Getzen 4-Valve Flugel
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
jhaysom
Veteran Member


Joined: 13 Nov 2001
Posts: 313
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an answer from bilingual Canada:

ques non

except that the final n is not really pronounced and that syllable has a nasal sound.

I checked this out with my Francophone colleagues.
_________________
John Haysom
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada
Yamaha 8310ZS trumpet
Yamaha 6310ZS trumpet
Courtois flugel
1941 King Silvertone cornet
1941 King 2B valve trombone
Kanstul 920 piccolo
etc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
BeboppinFool
Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator


Joined: 28 Dec 2001
Posts: 6437
Location: AVL|NC|USA

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I've always heard it pronounced "kwee KNOWN" ("non" would not have the long o sound, but "known" has the long o sound).

Rich
_________________
Puttin’ On The Ritz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
jhaysom
Veteran Member


Joined: 13 Nov 2001
Posts: 313
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulletin!!!! Bulletin!!!!

This just in --

I asked three more of my Fracophone collegues and got two more answers --

cooz - non

que - non (i.e. que as in question, s is silent)


The difficulty is that this is not a name found in Quebec and it's an unusual French spelling. So I guess any of these may be right. It's a matter of what pronunciation the Couesnon family uses.

In response to Rich, I've been struggling with how to explain to Americans (and Canadians from West of Ottawa for that matter) how to pronounce the French nasal vowels such as the non in Couesnon and then I remembered that trumpet players always like to discuss tongue positions. (Whoa! Whoa! I meant in the context of embouchure. You have a dirty mind!)

If you think of the "tah" tonguing position and use it when you try to say a long OH sound non and leave it there so that you can't say the final n, I think you'll get it.
_________________
John Haysom
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada
Yamaha 8310ZS trumpet
Yamaha 6310ZS trumpet
Courtois flugel
1941 King Silvertone cornet
1941 King 2B valve trombone
Kanstul 920 piccolo
etc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
pastbrass
Veteran Member


Joined: 12 Nov 2001
Posts: 255
Location: Acton, MA

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sacre bleu...Kwee-known.
Scott
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Freddieh.
Veteran Member


Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 126

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ques -like question- and no- like north !
But without question they are built east of New York, or west of L.A.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Horns All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group