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Felix c Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:35 am Post subject: Sight Reading |
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Dear friends
Does any of you can recommend web resources that help in Syncopation and Rhythm
Latin music have a lot of it and I need to improve.
Thanks
Felix _________________ Jesus I Trust In You |
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Rhythm Madness is an intensive study that will force you to read and play rhythms better in all keys. Even 10-15 minutes in this book will sharpen up your reading skills. Guaranteed. It's designed precisely for people just like you. _________________ Puttin’ On The Ritz |
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Pete Anderson Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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BeboppinFool wrote: | Rhythm Madness is an intensive study that will force you to read and play rhythms better in all keys. Even 10-15 minutes in this book will sharpen up your reading skills. Guaranteed. It's designed precisely for people just like you. |
I was gonna suggest the same thing.
That and a lot of practice... |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9008 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Read/listen to the music in short rhythmic groups, don't try to read too small units, i.e. single notes.
Learn to identify common rhythmic patterns. There are a number of the same or similar rhythmic patterns that you will find used very often and in many different types of music. Once you learn to recognise them, your job becomes much easier because they repeat themselves.
Read ahead of where you are playing.
In Latin music, listen to the clave. The music is so rhythmically complex but when you really listen closely, you start hearing patterns that are overlapping. Sometimes it sounds more complex than it is. The clave is the one constant. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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RNJTrumpet Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:23 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Read/listen to the music in short rhythmic groups, don't try to read too small units, i.e. single notes.
Learn to identify common rhythmic patterns. There are a number of the same or similar rhythmic patterns that you will find used very often and in many different types of music. Once you learn to recognise them, your job becomes much easier. |
Excellent advice, the two books I'm using that go through this in a progressive way are Rhythms Complete by Charles Colin/Bugs Bower, and Modern Reading Text in 4/4 by Louis Belson.
Rhythms Complete is a little more interesting as there are short phrases broken down to play - where Modern Reading is just single notes. They are both excellent and have really helped me identify common rhythmic patterns as kehaulani recommended. |
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RayVegaNYC Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Rhythms Complete by Charles Colin/Bugs Bower....practice slowly at first with a metronome. Slowly increase the metric pace. This book is great for getting your Jazz and or Latin reading chops together.
As for getting your feel right for Latin music, I suggest that you immerse yourself in great sound samples of masters performing this music.
Older recordings with people like Victor Paz, Roberto Rodriguez, Hector "Bomberito" Zarzuela, Ray Maldonado, Luis "Perico" Ortiz, Tony Barrero, Ray Gonzalez, Mario Ortiz, Elias Lopez, Larry Spencer, Rene Lopez, Ite Jerez will give you an idea as to how the music should be phrased trumpet wise.
There are many amazing young players such as Luis Aquino, Piro Rodriguez, Jan DeClerc among others that can serve as wonderful models as well.
I usually steer away from discussing clave in the early stages of working with someone on their reading of Latin music. A steady diet of classic Latin music is the best way to introduce one to this exciting musical genre. Get a hold of the feeling of the music before delving into discussions of the highly complex and sometimes controversial concepts of clave in Latin music.
Rhythms Complete by Charles Colin/Bugs Bower is priceless!!
peace-RV _________________ Ray Vega
Jazz Performing and Recording Artist
Senior Lecturer/The University of Vermont
http://www.rayvegamusic.com
http://www.uvm.edu/~music/?Page=faculty/vega.php |
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Felix c Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Ray
Thanks for your response. You are a master Too!!!!!!!!! _________________ Jesus I Trust In You |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Felix c wrote: | Ray, Thanks for your response. You are a master Too!!!!!!!!! |
From me too. Thanks for taking the time, man. We really appreciate it. You didn't have to do that. I bow to the northeast! _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:21 am Post subject: |
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RayVegaNYC wrote: | Rhythms Complete by Charles Colin/Bugs Bower....practice slowly at first with a metronome. Slowly increase the metric pace. This book is great for getting your Jazz and or Latin reading chops together.
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Rhythms Complete by Charles Colin/Bugs Bower is priceless!! |
Ray, my good buddy, you obviously haven't seen Rhythm Madness. Take a look at the part one sample pages and the part two sample pages . . . you get all those insane rhythms plus you get a workout through all the keys, too.
After I spend 15 minutes or so with a student playing out of Rhythm Madness, their sight-reading shows dramatic improvement. Plus, you ought to see the etudes at the end of each section. Each of the 12 etudes is a full page of rhythmic trickery designed to hone your sight-reading ability to razor sharpness.
I kid you not. _________________ Puttin’ On The Ritz |
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RayVegaNYC Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Rich!!!!
This is awesome!!!!
I just checked out the links. I'm getting mine!!!
There's NOTHING better than to get REAL info from a working musician!!!
Thanks RICH! _________________ Ray Vega
Jazz Performing and Recording Artist
Senior Lecturer/The University of Vermont
http://www.rayvegamusic.com
http://www.uvm.edu/~music/?Page=faculty/vega.php |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Rhythms Complete by Charles Colin/Bugs Bower is priceless!! |
AMEN!
This was part of my early training, and I use it with my students. It goes hand in hand with BeBop Duets. Both are available from Colin, for treble and bass clef.
There is, however, a price . . . _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
- TH member and advertiser (name withheld) |
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kalijah Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 3257 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:05 am Post subject: |
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If you can find it:
Developing Jazz Concepts for Saxophone and Other Instruments Paperback – January 1, 1981
by Lennie Niehaus (Author) |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:11 am Post subject: |
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For syncopation and rhythm:
Joe Allard's Advanced Rhythms
David Berger's Contemporary Jazz Rhythms
Bugs Bower's Rhythms Complete
Rich Willey's First Book of Practical Studies and Rhythm Madness
Changing meter studies can also be useful for sight reading proficiency, if not Latin music specifically.
Everett Gates' Odd Meter Etudes
Elliot Del Borgo's Contemporary Rhythm and Meter Studies
Chris Kase's Odd Meter Escapades
Tom Stevens' Changing Meter Etudes |
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fintonissimo Regular Member
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