Ready to buy flugelhorn - which would you pick?

plankowner110 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 3620

Dave,
Good luck with the TrumpetFest. Sounds like a fun day. Unfortunately it's too far of a drive from the Buckeye state. By the way, after much serious consideration, I have decided to keep playing my Yamaha 731 flugel. It's a sweet little horn. Thanks for the good advice when I was comparing it with the Vintage One flugel, which is also an incredible instrument.
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_dcstep · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:46 am Post subject:

That's understandable about not driving in from Ohio.

BTW, I'll probably add a third slide trigger to my 731 in the next few weeks.

Dave
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BeboppinFool · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:09 pm Post subject:

KJaeger · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:36 pm Post subject:

I absolutely LOVE my Kanstul flugel (Signature 1525 with the copper bell) - very rich sound, easy to play in tune and the high-quality Kanstul valves are very smooth. I did not try a Kanstul Custom flugel with the same copper bell however - I have heard that that sounds similar and is perhaps a better value cost-wise...
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_dcstep · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:25 pm Post subject:

Hmm, I'll need to find a Courtois for the DFW TrumpetFest. Anybody got one that's going to be able to come?

On the bandstand tonight, there were a couple of flugel solos. One was played on a Leblanc Sandoval and the other on Getzen. One was dark the other was lighter. Both sounded great and seemed to project pretty well.

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David · Veteran Member Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 379

There is one on ebay and I am dying to pull the trigger.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2571554511&category=620

But I'm in Texas which adds $90 in sales tax, and I just can't make up my mind since there are Conn V1s, LeBlanc Sandovals, the elusive Couesnons and (dxmmxt!) those Kanstul 1525s . . .

Excuse me this is starting to hurt!
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rooster7 · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:50 am Post subject:

I'm new at flugelhorns. I'm considering a Yamaha 731. I have a question. Is the trigger important? How often is it used? Also, has anyone tried the B&S flugelhorn?

trickg · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:00 am Post subject:

If it was me, from that list, I'd get the Kanstul or the Conn. However, you could also buy a Yamaha and wind up with a great sounding flugelhorn for less. Me? I have the Kasntul Custom Class flugel which is very similar to the Kanstul 1525 but with a smaller, lighter bell. I picked that over the Kanstul Chicago flugel, the Yamaha 631 and the Yamaha 731. I was torn on the 731 but the Kanstul cost less and since I've owned a Yamaha horn but never owned Kanstul before, I went for the Kanstul. It has been a pretty sweet horn and that isn't just my assesment, that comes from everyone that plays it. My ONLY complaint is that intonation wise, it's not quite as good as the Yamaha 631, but it sound better in my opinion, and the intonation was good enough that I can deal with it.

Good luck Dave. Let us know how it turns out.
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_dcstep · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:28 am Post subject:

The intonation on my 731 is EXCELLENT; however, I'm considering spending $150 to have the third-slide trigger installed. I wasn't worried about it until lately. First, I auditioned a V1 and noted that I did use the trigger a good bit and that was the main difference between the horns, IMHO. (They're both great horns, out of the same mold). The final straw came last week when my band added "Georgia On My Mind" to our set list, with a bunch of flugel noodling in A. Of course, it lands on a C# here and there. I'm coping by initially pulling the slide, then pushing it back in during a rest, in preparation for an upcoming G#.

SO, it'll depend on what you're playing. Since you tend to play the flugel from A below the staff to A above the staff, I think you'll run into a lot of 1-2-3 and 1-3 and 2-3 fingerings, where you'll appreciate the convenience of the trigger.

All that said, even with the added cost of adding a trigger, the 731 is less than a V1, but I'm still kicking myself for not buying the mint V1 I had for $1000 and selling the Yamaha as is for $700-$800.

Dave
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