Over Sized Mouthpiece Receiver on Getzen Eb Sop.

KevinInGeorgia · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:19 am Post subject:

I’m still looking for a way to solve my mouthpiece problems..
Seems like I may have the same problem as the Over Sized Mouthpiece Receiver on the Olds. Luckily I’m not the only one to see the problem, asemaster ( Bill) saw the same thing I did.. A cornet Mouthpiece is too Small.. a Trumpet mouthpieces fits but is WAY out of tune, so the flugel seems the best bet.. I guess I may try to find a small flugel Mouthpiece that will be in tune. I have to say Getzen Corp. has been very accommodating & they are trying to solve the problem..

Here is a Link to the Pics of it from Ebay..
The mouthpice thay had in it was a Bach 7C cornet that they had taped up ..
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/moneyman1025/EternGetzCoronet.jpg?allow_track_link=1&track=022535d134-52693&sp=1

To who ever said they love the sound of the Getzen Eb they are RIGHT.. It has a MUCH bigger sound then the Yamahas I’ve played.. The bigger bell really make a difference..
I may if I can find the time & the money take the lil cornet to Cliff & have him make me a Custom Blackburn pipe.. That is the nice thing about being less than 4 hours away from the Blackburn Shop..

On a Side note one of my band mates just picked up a Yamaha ycr261 Eb Sop & was asking me what a good mouthpiece for that particular horn.. He is primarily a Trumpeter but also plays a lot of Cornet with his Olds Ambassador.. I think he plays around a Bach 3c..
Thanks for any recommendations?

Kevin

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[ This Message was edited by: KevinInGeorgia on 2003-11-12 10:27 ]

pair of kings · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:48 am Post subject:

Interesting - that horn tunes at the leadpipe. I hadn't realized that.
Come on Kevin - you got such a deal on that horn, go ahead and have Blackburn make you a new receiver!! I bet you wouldn't regret it!

OldKid · Veteran Member Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Posts: 135

Just exactly what mp is this horn designed to work with?
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trombapaul2 · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:33 am Post subject:

Hey there,

Curry offers any of their cornet mouthpieces also made to fit the
53' (and earlier) Olds receivers. I just received a Curry 4S-3DC
and it fits my Olds beautifully. Cost me all of $68.00 (normal list
price + $15.00 for the Olds shank) including shipping. I bet that's
alot cheaper than having Cliff make a pipe for the horn, assuming
of course the I.D. of the Getzen receiver is the same as the Olds.

Paul
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KevinInGeorgia · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:42 am Post subject:

I'm trying to get a definitive answer from Getzen..
It's a GREAT soprano because it's a .460 Bore, but the Getzen rep I've been talking to hasn't had much luck finding a Getzen Tech that was there when it was made & has any knowledge of it..

I'll take some more pics when I get a chance & get it all cleaned up..

It was in GREAT shape.. a few small scratches & a stuck amato water key, other than that: WOW a great horn.. I need to give it a good long bath to make sure I got everything cleaned out of it..

It plays VERY free & open .. Projects well.. I used it a few times with the Cornet Band lat night I could easily play over: 2 Bb cornets,3 Alto Horns, Flugel & 2 tubas.. Just don't tell them I said that..

I was making a list of all the horns I have..
Guess it's time to take Pics of all of them & put them on a website..
Riffdawg (Joel) calls me a Walking Brass Band.. He is right..

Right now I've got:
2 Bb Trumpets
1 C Trumpet
1 Eb/d Trumpet
1 Short Bell Picc Trumpet

1 Eb Cornet
2 Bb Cornets
2 Flugelhorns
2 Alto Horns
1 Euphonium

HI.. MY NAME IS KEVIN & I HAVE AN ADDICTION. EBAY is not my friend

They say admitting you have a problem is the part of the solution.. lol

Of course.. I've got a new solution to my EBAY Problem.. People ask me to Bid on EBAY horns for them.. They send the check/money order when I win them a horn.. It's great to spend other people's money..

Kevin

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riffdawg2000 · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:06 am Post subject:

< bowing head and shaking it ......... >

He forgot to mention he is an ametuer repair-guy to......He's a good friend .. but he ain't bring that blowtorch anywhere near my horns .... sorry Kev ...
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nieuwguyski · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:01 pm Post subject:

Kevin,

I have that same model Getzen soprano cornet and my leadpipe, which takes a standard cornet mouthpiece, doesn't look like yours. Mine has two pulls on either side of the chunky hexagon at the very end of the receiver. I have discovered that the Eb cornet pipe and Getzen Eterna piccolo pipe have the same OD, so they can be swapped around (resulting in picc in B and cornet in D...). It makes me wonder if the Getzen Eterna flugelhorn leadpipe has the same OD, and if one has somehow ended up in your cornet.
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Downunder · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:11 am Post subject:

Kevin,

I've got a Getzen soprano I'm selling on behalf of a band here which is the same as yours (except it is silver plated and has a trigger on the 1st slide instead of the saddle).

The leadpipe takes a normal cornet mouthpiece without any problems.

Stephen Williams
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KevinInGeorgia · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:23 am Post subject:

I have a Getzen Picc & Getzen Flugel so I can check those pipes..
I’ve already tried the Flugel Pipe & unless it was cut down it is too long to fit..
I do not have the original Getzen Bb pipe but I will find my Getzen A pipe & see if it fits & if it looks the same..

nieuwguyski: If at all possible can you send a pic of your Leadpipe..

Everyone: THANK you for all the Help.. I think we're getting closer to the solution.

Kevin

GordonH · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:57 am Post subject:

Thats definitley a Getzen Pic Bb pipe.
Its the wrong one.
Get the correct leadpipe and the instrument will also sound better.

Gordon
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trumpetmike · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:36 pm Post subject:

Definitely sounds like a case of someone having experimented before you purchased the sop - I have a Getzen sop and it takes a cornet shank perfectly.

If you are that close to Blackburn, see what they can do in the way of a soprano leadpipe. If the one from their new sop fits the Getzen I would be very interested. If it has even the slightest playing characteristics of their own soprano I may have to invest in one.

Edited for terrible spelling!

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KevinInGeorgia · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:56 pm Post subject:

Well I love Blackburn pipes.. I have them on almost all of my Horns..
SO ... I will have to talk to Tina or Cliff & see if the pipe will fit my Blackburn.
Just another Excuse for a trip to the Blackburn Shop.

Kevin

asemaster · Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:58 am Post subject:

Kevin, remind me Monday night to bring my flugel mouthpiece on to rehearsal on Tuesday.
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