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Extremely Rare Don Ellis, 1974 (Live)



 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:09 am    Post subject: Extremely Rare Don Ellis, 1974 (Live) Reply with quote

Just the sound, no video, but this is pretty darned nice:


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If you listen carefully at 00:53 to 01:14, he's somehow using a slide mechanism to manipulate pitch downwards. (The Firebird didn't come out for some years after). Makes me wonder how he's doing this. Makes me also wonder, that since he was also a Holton player, was Don actually more involved in the development of the Firebird than he's given credit. Is this some sort of Firebird prototype, or did he have his main tuning slide loosened up to do this? Either way, he was into this before Maynard, I think. Anyway, check this recording out. It's really quite good. The tapes are from the UCLA archive.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a combination effect of his "lipping" up and the quarter tone trumpet he was playing. He did not start playing the firebird trumpet until several years later. He died in 1978 so probably 1976?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyM wrote:
I think it is a combination effect of his "lipping" up and the quarter tone trumpet he was playing. He did not start playing the firebird trumpet until several years later. He died in 1978 so probably 1976?


I was thinking that too, but having listened to this over and over and considering what's going on when he does the overtone series lip slur thing after the sliding pitches, I'm convinced it's something on the horn.

Right, he died in 78. Supposedly (if you believe wiki, which I do not) the Firebird went into production in 83. When I bought my MF Horn in 81, I could swear I remember seeing a brochure tucked in my case for both the Superbone and Firebird. Of course it's conceivable Holton had made prototypes of the Firebird prior to offering them to the public. And, Ellis is credited as having played one.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great playing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's been posting other rare Ellis tracks lately. Quite a bit on his channel if you check it out. Great stuff!!!
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