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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 9:59 am    Post subject: GETTING STARTED 2 Reply with quote

The assignment through the first seven weeks or so would read something like this, pasted over from the Getting Started thread.

*****By this time you should be doing the following exercises on a daily basis******

The six Notes (regular)
Regular 2nds
Regular Minor 7ths
Harmonic Scale
SLS 2nds

wk 8. At this time you would replace Minor 7ths with Major 7ths and
replace SLS 2nds with SLS 3rds.
The Harmonic Scale exercise should continue to increase to the
next higher note that you are able to play. This process will
continue until you are playing and holding the F#. After that point
something different starts. Tell me when you get there.

wk 9. Replace Major 7ths with Octaves.
Replace SLS 3rds with SLS 4ths.
** Add LSL Six Notes.

wk 10 Replace SLS 4ths with SLS 5ths
Replace LSL Six Notes with LSL 2nds .
Continue the Harmonic Scale.
**** At this time start playing each of the Regular interval studies once a week on a schedule.
Sun 2nds
Mon 3rds
Tue 4ths
Wed 5th
Thu 6ths
Fri Minor 7ths
Sat Major ths and 8ths (2 intervals on this day to complete all of them in one week)
Or make up your own schedule that will get each interval played at least once a week

wk 11 Replace SLS 5ths with SLS 6ths
Replace LSL 2nds with LSL 3rds
continue Harmonics and Regular intervals schedule

wk 12 Replace SLS 6ths with SLS Minor 7ths
Replace LSL 3nds with LSL 4ths
continue Harmonics and Regular intervals schedule
**** ADD The SIx Notes Tonguing Exercise

wk 13 Replace SLS Minor 7ths with SLS Major 7ths
Replace LSL 4ths with LSL 5ths
continue Harmonics and Regular intervals schedule
continue the Tonguing exercise
**** ADD the Chromatic Pedal Exercise

wk 14 Replace SLS Major 7ths with SLS 8ths
Replace LSL 5ths with LSL 6ths
continue Harmonics and Regular intervals schedule
continue the Tonguing exercise
continue Chromatic Pedals

wk 15 Replace LSL 6ths with LSL Minor 7ths
continue Harmonics and Regular intervals schedule
continue the Tonguing exercise
continue Chromatic Pedals
**** START doing SLS intervals on a schedule but with a DIFFERENT interval than the
one you are playing Regular. Something like this.
Sun 4nds
Mon 5ths
Tue 6ths
Wed Minor 7ths
Thu Major 7ths/8ths
Fri 2nds
Sat 3rds

So now at week 15 your daily Caruso practice would look something like this.

Six Notes
Regular interval (schedule)
SLS interval (schedule)
LSL Minor 7ths
Harmonic Scale
Chromatic Pedals
Tonguing Exercise

These are boring exercises. However, you can give your brain something very useful useful to do by concentrating on your foot tapping and sub dividing 16ths and moving AFTER the last 16th. Calisthenic repetition is the essence of developing balance and synchronized muscles in the embouchure and the respiratory system. This is where you choose to be a serious trumpet player. Scales, chords, etudes and repetoire studies are much more interesting and are where you apply the capability developed with Calithenics. Your daily practice should include a portion of all of them. In time, calisthenics may become the biggest part of your practice when it functions as a maintenance activity.

Coming Up,

Chord Pedals
Developed Scale

Yet to come that are not in the book!

Slur/Tongue
Node Exercises
Pedal Scale Exercise
Pedal Gliss
Pedal Double Gliss
Double Pedals
The Spider

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Charlie. On this new stuff coming up, will there be new "rules" besides the old ones ( count and subdivide, longsetting etc). Could you give the full interval schedule - I am up to LSL octaves. BTW I am doing Drozdoff style peel aways and free buzzing plus steven isometrics. Is this okay? Will this conflict with Carmine's stuff.

J. Freedman,Jr
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerry,

"On this new stuff coming up, will there be new "rules" besides the old ones ( count and subdivide, longsetting etc)."

The rules will never change. But when we get to The Nodes Exercise, the rules just aren't used. Its the only one.

Could you give the full interval schedule - I am up to LSL octaves."

Basically, set up a schedule that does each one of all three types of intervals within a week's time. I start Sunday with the LSL 6ths, Major 7ths and 8ths occur together on the same day (in this case on Tuesday), and then the LSL 2nds on Wednesday. It is probably better to have a different interval each day for each of the three types of intervals, Regular, SLS and LSL, rather than doing all 2nds on Sunday, all 3rds on Monday, etc.

"BTW I am doing Drozdoff style peel aways"

I don't know what these are.

"and free buzzing"

Carmine used extensive free buzzing and mouthpiece drills. The basic idea is to free buzz or mouthpiece buzz and then go right to the trumpet and do the same thing. He used the Schlossberg book for these types of exercises. That would constitute a thread in itself. The purpose, AIUI (as I understood it), was to get the embouchure in a buzz position while playing the horn.

"plus steven isometrics."

Carmine never utilized isometric exercises with me or at anytime that I was in his studio. I've never used them.

"Is this okay? Will this conflict with Carmine's stuff."

Carmine believed that his approach would NEVER intefere with any other teacher's approach. He encouraged students to seek out other teachers, especially for stylistic conception and other repertoire issues.

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Charly
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drozdoff peel aways are basically pulling the horn off your face while playing a note and holding the buzz. Drozdoff can do it up to a high Dflat. I can do it up to fourth line C but I am working on it

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on, Charly! I was a little ahead of myself in asking about part 2, but I didn't want to get to the end and be out of material and by some unforseen circumstance, be unable to correspond with you. I really appreciate all your help. Wish I had something to give back!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Carmine believed that his approach would NEVER intefere with any other teacher's approach. He encouraged students to seek out other teachers, especially for stylistic conception and other repertoire issues. "

I remember hearing him tell someone, "If you want to be able to execute something better I can help you. If you want to know how something is supposed to go I can recommend another teacher."

When I was studying with him he kept stacks of Vince Pensarella's and Jimmy Maxwell's business cards in his office.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On 3-28-03, Charly, you stated:

"Coming Up,

Chord Pedals
Developed Scale

Yet to come that are not in the book!

Slur/Tongue
Node Exercises
Pedal Scale Exercise
Pedal Gliss
Pedal Double Gliss
Double Pedals
The Spider

and more


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Chord Pedals and Developed scale are in the book, but what are the other 7 exercises not in the book? Did I miss them elseware in the forum?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one of them

http://trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=5602&forum=20
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onward and upward! Bugleboy, I just finished week 8 and have a question about week nine. You mention adding 6notes LSL as opposed to replacing 6 notes regular. If this is the case, where should I plug in 6notes LSL?
Here's what my week eight looked like...
Six notes-intervals in seconds-harmonic scale(to high E)-SLS thirds-intervals in Maj 7ths-harmonic scale repeated-20 minute break-intervals in Maj 7ths repeated...music
Am I on the right track? Sure feels/sounds like it...
Thanks!
Jason Johnson



this is an error. I didn't edit anything - CR

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your routine looks fine. Good job!

I would start the second 20 minute practice session with the new exerecise, Six Notes ><.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mr. Raymond, that makes sense. I may have more for you in the coming weeks as I'm almost waist deep in the routine. Your instruction has been very easy to follow thus far and things seem to be working well for me. I've been playing now for 20 years(since 12) and have been plagued by endurance issues from day one. Things have been getting more comfortable in the last few months...hmmm
Thanks again,
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UP and Charly, you talked to tell you when we reach the F# in the harmonic series... Well, I can It hit, but I'm following the Getting started therad and I've had only the D above high C... should I go where I can go or only add an harmonic on top each week until I get the F#?

And when doing F#.. what become different?

Thanx,

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take the Harmonics one at a time, every 2 weeks or so.

When you get to the G4 you start coming back down.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished up on week 10 and making some nice progress. Up to this point it has been a habit for me to play the 2nds directly after the six notes, followed by the prescribed routine for the week. Should I continue to include the 2nds with the daily rotating regular interval studies for week 10? This made for a redundancy on Sunday which alerted my curiosity. Thanks a MILLION in advance!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a good idea to play the Six Notes and Seconds every day for quite a while. That will translate into doing two regular intervals every day: the seconds and another one per the schedule.

If you have the Seconds scheduled for a particular day then you would only play it one time and that day there would only be one regular interval. Or you could split the Maj7ths and octaves between Sat and Sun so that your schedule might look like this.

Sun 2nds & Maj7ths
Mon 2nds & 3rds
Tue 2nds & 4ths
Wed 2nds & 5ths
Thu 2nds & 6ths
Fri 2nds & Min7ths
Sat 2nds & Octaves
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, you also managed to answer my NEXT question.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I would take the Harmonics one at a time, every 2 weeks or so.

When you get to the G4 you start coming back down.


Could you explain a bit? I've reached G4 in my harmonic series today. I'll keep up doing it normaly for a week or two, but after that? could you explain the coming back down? Does it means that instead of adding new notes to the harminic scale, I'll reduce the number of notes played in my harminic scale. Or, do you means that when I get to G4, i'll do somthin like that:

G, C, G, C, E, G, Bb, C, D, E, F#, G4, F#, E, D, ...?

Thanx in advance,
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicolas,

That is correct. Also, when you change the harmonics to ascend to the highest note and then descend you also change from playing the exercise as quarter notes to playing them all as eighth notes (semiquavers)...except for the last note of each key (which is still a whole note).
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ho that will be lot of fun for the chop! I'll love that!
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to an interview that Charley did with Ole on his web page. It has basic exercises, but I believe the harmonics as is discussed here is accurately notated and described.


http://abel.hive.no/trumpet/artist/friedrich/seminar/caruso.html
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