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jicetp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:52 pm Post subject: Carol Brass |
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I have been lurking through some posts made related to these horns.
I might have a try, but alas, can't play/test them.
So, to narrow down the choices, could someone explain the different configurations/options available and their qualities ?
I am especially interested in understanding bore sizes/bell sizes.
I am currently on the market for a lead / commercial / bright horn
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hackney_wick Veteran Member
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:29 am Post subject: |
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5000L-YST is probably what you will want if you're after afforadble. If money isn't a problem, then the Geoff Winstead model with a bronze bell would also be worth trying. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I had a 5000L, great commercial horn, currently I have a 7770L-YST. It's VERY light and responsive, bright but does have some core also. GREAT build quality. This is from a former dealer website:
"The lightweight build with no braces at the main tuning slide, plus the use of all yellow brass primary tubing and a lightweight yellow brass bell make this a very responsive trumpet. We believe this to be our brightest sounding lead trumpet. And by using the fast taper design leadpipe, CarolBrass is able to provide the player with an open upper register without building a huge diameter air-sucking pipe. Lead players REALLY like the way the horns with this leadpipe respond."
I really think CarolBrass horns in general are a steal, especially good as a "gig horn" if you sometimes play in environments where horn damage is a bit more of a risk. No one wants to get their horn banged up, but better a 1500.00 horn than a 3500.00 one.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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matthes93401 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:46 am Post subject: |
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With CarolBrass trumpets, I recommend the regular sized bells as opposed to the large bells for projection reasons. The bronze PSM bell tail is a nice option. The 0.465 bore helps for the double braced regular leadpipe configuration, while 0.460 bore helps for reversed leadpipe. Sterling leadpipe is another nice option.
I agree with others that CarolBrass is good quality for the money, and they are unmatched for customization at a fair price. However, others do argue Brasspire has more playable models for the same price. Jupiter is another consideration for a little more money. |
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Dieter Z Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2013 Posts: 449 Location: Mountains of North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:24 am Post subject: |
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A guy and TH member that has all these brands new and use in his store would be Trent Austin from AustinCustomBrass. Trent should be able to stir you in the right direction.
http://austincustombrass.mybigcommerce.com/categories/Bb-Trumpets/
No affiliation, just a happy customer of ACB _________________ B & H Sovereign 928
Conn 80A
F. Besson Brevette Kanstul made
B&S Challenger II 3137 rl
Buescher 400 - 225 (WWII)
Benge 90C
Eastman 540 D/Eb
ACB Fluegelhorn
Selmer Picc
ACB mouthpieces for most of my playing |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Trent is great, I've done lots of business with him. But unless there has been a recent change, he is no longer a Carol dealer. Doug Teeter might be a good place to start, and I bought my Carol from Seacat Music.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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Dieter Z Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2013 Posts: 449 Location: Mountains of North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Brad361 wrote: | But unless there has been a recent change, he is no longer a Carol dealer.
Brad |
Sorry, forgot about that _________________ B & H Sovereign 928
Conn 80A
F. Besson Brevette Kanstul made
B&S Challenger II 3137 rl
Buescher 400 - 225 (WWII)
Benge 90C
Eastman 540 D/Eb
ACB Fluegelhorn
Selmer Picc
ACB mouthpieces for most of my playing |
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bebop Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:48 am Post subject: Carolbrass |
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For a lead or big band horn I would look at the Carolbrass 5000L-YST or the 5000L-YLT which is a little darker broader sound. I would not get the scratch finish on the lightweight bell. I think it cuts down on the projection of this model. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Dieter Z wrote: | Brad361 wrote: | But unless there has been a recent change, he is no longer a Carol dealer.
Brad |
Sorry, forgot about that |
And don't let it happen again!😉😉
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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AwesomeDad Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm gonna follow this thread. I'm shopping and they are on my radar seems like a lot of positive reviews. I don't need a 4K top of the line horn but I would like best bang for the buck. As for dealers
Might want to give Steve a call he is a dealer.
http://www.horntrader.com/23-carolbrass-instruments
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GuidoCorona Veteran Member
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AwesomeDad Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Also you can custom order lacquer and bell material just call and make sure it's available for your model.
JJ |
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budstahl Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2019 Posts: 123 Location: Jönköping
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Brad361 wrote: | I had a 5000L, great commercial horn, currently I have a 7770L-YST. It's VERY light and responsive, bright but does have some core also. GREAT build quality. This is from a former dealer website:
"The lightweight build with no braces at the main tuning slide, plus the use of all yellow brass primary tubing and a lightweight yellow brass bell make this a very responsive trumpet. We believe this to be our brightest sounding lead trumpet. And by using the fast taper design leadpipe, CarolBrass is able to provide the player with an open upper register without building a huge diameter air-sucking pipe. Lead players REALLY like the way the horns with this leadpipe respond."
I really think CarolBrass horns in general are a steal, especially good as a "gig horn" if you sometimes play in environments where horn damage is a bit more of a risk. No one wants to get their horn banged up, but better a 1500.00 horn than a 3500.00 one.
Brad |
What is the difference between 5000 and 7770 ? |
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adamsa New Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Location: Cypress, TX, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:25 am Post subject: |
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To revive this.
I am also interested in lead horn buy I play on medium bore
Xo 1600i and schilke B6
So from older thread saw 5205L-YLT as a medium bore with someone using ML tuning slide with it to open it a little.
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Where can I order factory built custom horn at good pricing?
Thanks
Andy _________________ Jupiter XO 1600i w/ harrelson VGR
Schilke B6 |
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