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Rod Haney
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 Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: Which teacher placed greatest emphasis on appeture control |
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In controlling attack and range, or in overall playing. If as most they spread the emphasis around, who do you feel were most effective in strengthening embouchere?
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trumpet56
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| I would put my money on Carmine Caruso. |
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| trumpet56 wrote: | | I would put my money on Carmine Caruso. |
Carmine never mentioned either aperture or control. In fact, he often stated that we should not consciously manipulate the embouchure.
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For aperture control, books like Shuebruk Lip Trainers, John Daniel Special Studies for Trumpet, and Franquin Complete Method have great exercises to develop flexibility, responsiveness, strength and control. They each have their own way of describing it in their notes and usually don't even mention "aperture control," but that's one thing that these exercises develop.
Strengthening the embouchure is just one aspect of this work. There are other ways to focus more intensely on strengthening the embouchure, for example, lip flexibility exercises (Irons, Bai Lin, Colin...) and melodic etudes (Brandt, Arban Characteristic Studies, Werner, Wurm...).
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Schlossberg !!!
Be sure to do the mouthpiece buzzing in the first part
of the book and be sure to follow the dynamic markings
on the exercises.
Take it easy and rest often. |
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| PH wrote: | | trumpet56 wrote: | | I would put my money on Carmine Caruso. |
Carmine never mentioned either aperture or control. In fact, he often stated that we should not consciously manipulate the embouchure. |
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but using Caruso primarily to increase embouchure strength misses the brilliance of the approach. |
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IMO focusing on "embouchure strength" is the wrong mindset and too general a term. Pretty much anybody has more than enough "strength"; what is lacking is control, breath support, and a musical mindset (song and wind). And most any teacher or method can help you increase endurance, attacks, range, etc. that will all build "embouchure strength".
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| homecookin wrote: | Schlossberg !!!
Be sure to do the mouthpiece buzzing in the first part
of the book and be sure to follow the dynamic markings
on the exercises.
Take it easy and rest often. |
+1. Daily work out of Schlossberg was the single most transformative decision of my trumpet playing life. Strong, focused, and flexible chops, it's all in there!
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| Don Herman rev2 wrote: | | IMO focusing on "embouchure strength" is the wrong mindset and too general a term. Pretty much anybody has more than enough "strength"; what is lacking is control, breath support, and a musical mindset (song and wind). And most any teacher or method can help you increase endurance, attacks, range, etc. that will all build "embouchure strength". |
THIS !!!
AND...THIS AGAIN. |
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| JoseLindE4 wrote: | | PH wrote: | | trumpet56 wrote: | | I would put my money on Carmine Caruso. |
Carmine never mentioned either aperture or control. In fact, he often stated that we should not consciously manipulate the embouchure. |
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but using Caruso primarily to increase embouchure strength misses the brilliance of the approach. |
Yes! It completely destroys and undermines the approach.
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hello
i'll not use "greatest", but Bobby Shew talks and teach a lot about it, being one of his fundamentals
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