New JEDI MOuthpiEce Maker: DONAT

loil · Last edited by loil on Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:10 pm; edited 3 times in total

Hey all
Just an advice:
You definitely should check this new mouthpiece designer from France:
https://www.donat-mouthpiece.com/
Dimitri Donat and his staff have already conviced such guys as Roy Hargrove, Arturo Sandoval, Russel Gunn, Erik Truffaz, Rashawn Ross, Justin Stanton (Snarky P)...to name a few.
Remarquable craftmanship, great design, these pieces are absolutely forgiving in use and very efficient.
Furthermore, he is very friendly, available and open minded, always in search of new advices.
Stay tuned as he's actually building a piece with a few specs I have suggested. I know I will be impressed by this one...

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1969 Connstellation 38B
1977 Martin Committee
197* Couesnon Flugel
DONAT mpcs exclusively

Karel · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject:

What makes those mouthpieces different or special for you in comparison with other famous brands?

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homebilly · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:08 pm Post subject:

butter from Saint Malo
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loil · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:18 am Post subject:

fredo · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:12 am Post subject:

Hi Christophe, are those mpc like Monette or CG mpcs : large throat or on the 27/26 side like conventional ones ?
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Karel · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:18 am Post subject:

hackney_wick · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:27 am Post subject:

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loil · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:07 am Post subject:

JetJaguar · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject:

Yes, interesting he has the short shank large throat like Monette. I just got a Kanstul copy of a Monette B4D and I'm sold on the concept. Monette reasons that the standard length of mp we have now was actually to accommodate trumpets that converted between Bb and A, and if you're playing a modern Bb, the shank should be shorter, which is the length that Monette has.

Aside from Monette, its direct copiers and now Donat, what other mp makers do a short shank?
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Voltrane · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:29 pm Post subject:

Stork studio master.
http://storkcustom.com/mouthpieces/trumpet-mouthpieces/

JetJaguar · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:47 am Post subject:

Thanks Voltrane!
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Bach 7C mouthpiece

I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
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fredo · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:19 am Post subject:

Thanks Christophe, i just mailed them to know if they make a mpc with the playability of a Monette 6 and a more "conventional sound" with overtones "à la" 3C.
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Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
Lotus 3L brass

loil · Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:53 pm Post subject:

So close, so different
so near so far

Here is a link to an image I've posted in FB as I can't manage to upload one here..

oups

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210119726805856&set=pb.1118523410.-2207520000.1506585061.&type=3&theater
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C. LeLoiL
http://christopheleloil.com/
1969 Connstellation 38B
1977 Martin Committee
197* Couesnon Flugel
DONAT mpcs exclusively

fredo · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:35 am Post subject:

i've a TOUVRON model on order, short shank, light, 4mm backbore.

Dimitri DONAT said me that was a good 3C/B6 competitor, i will post a review when received (made to order, so : beginning of November)
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Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
Lotus 3L brass

fredo · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:42 am Post subject:

So i received it this morning faster than expected, thanks to Dimitri Donat.

That's the Touvron model, light blank : à la Monette XLT, short shank (= Monette B6)

The throat is 4 mm so approximately 22.

I've compared it to the Monette Silver 6 and Kanstul CG3 (22 bore also).

The blow is similar to the CG3, the Silver 6 seems slightly more open.

The sound is slightly different also.

More high harmonics with the Donat who give a very clean and pure sound especially above the staff.

A contrario, the Monette seems to have a broader spectrum in the low harmonics and a little less clean sound.

The CG3 seems to deliver a less refined sound.

The attacks are also crisper with the Donat with a big sparkle.

The intonation of the Donat is the best of the three.

The high C is too flat with the CG3, too sharp with the Silver 6 and right spot on with the Donat.

At least with my ability to play relaxed (i work at House with the Resonance 6 Prana because it shut off if i have too much tension, this mpc is a very good teacher !)

But too open for me to play in the big band and the symphonic orchestra i've recently joined.(amateur, second in the two cases, i play the Silver 6)

The final result after one day test is a far better endurance with the Donat, perhaps the very good intonation is responsible of that ?

Dimitri Donat played Monette mpcs before his own one and you feel the influence of Monette in this Mpc.

There is something who make the Donat more "Monettish" than the conventional CG3.

But with a great player as Guy Touvron, he was able develop a mpc who increase facility and endurance and a more 3C Bach sound in the same time.

Too long post ... and i do not pretend to have the ability of a pro player to judge a mpc, but the extended endurance is a very good thing for an amateur !
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Frederic FELTZ
Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
Lotus 3L brass

loil · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:20 am Post subject:

Here's a recent video recorded with this piece, Donat 165. This prototype might need a few more adjustments but I just love the sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=hUFF6G8nZOs
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C. LeLoiL
http://christopheleloil.com/
1969 Connstellation 38B
1977 Martin Committee
197* Couesnon Flugel
DONAT mpcs exclusively

stephan · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:00 pm Post subject:

Hello Christophe,
Great video, you sound good with this one too. the sound seems to have more core to my ears.
Thanks to you I discovered this brand.
I finally found the substitute of my Bach 3c # 24 which was in very bad shape.
I tried the standard and heavy 169C and opted for the heavy one.
It is different from my Bach but nevertheless very pleasant with a deep and dark sound.
I had to adapt to the wider and flatter rim.
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Karel · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:27 am Post subject:

Wow, you sound great Christophe!! The band also is excellent!!

kmag · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject:

Where are your albums for sale?
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