Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:55 am Post subject: Soloists & high note player on this Ted Heath recording?
Ted Heath's band doing a suped-up take on Glenn Miller's arrangement of Tuxedo Junction. Has some nice bluesy soloing - anyone know who's soloing as well as who's playing the dub C at the end? It's a British band - maybe Derek Watkins on the high notes?
This video is the whole album - go to 39:16 for Tuxedo. It's the last cut on the album.
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Soloists & high note player on this Ted Heath record
Robert P wrote:
Ted Heath's band doing a suped-up take on Glenn Miller's arrangement of Tuxedo Junction. Has some nice bluesy soloing - anyone know who's soloing as well as playing the dub C at the end? It's a British band - maybe Derek Watkins?
This video is the whole album - go to 39:16 for Tuxedo. It's the last cut on the album.
I´m a fan of Ted Heath´s Swing is King albums; fantastic trumpet section, perfectionism etc. Listen to Two o´clock jump from Swing is King https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKq4sjSiNZc Some of the trumpeters were Bert Ezzard, Bert Courtley so maybe one of them? Derek Watkins nicknamed "mr Lead" did play in the Heath band at least sometimes. Maybe not same guy soloing and nailing the double C? Here a site with references: http://henrybebop.co.uk/heath.htm
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Soloists & high note player on this Ted Heath record
Seymor B Fudd wrote:
Some of the trumpeters were Bert Ezzard, Bert Courtley so maybe one of them? Derek Watkins nicknamed "mr Lead" did play in the Heath band at least sometimes. Maybe not same guy soloing and nailing the double C?
I edited my original post for clarity, that it's probably two different players.
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:48 am Post subject:
I have the good fortune to play with/for three of the five remaining members of the Ted Heath Band who played under Ted himself and so was very pleased to see the band being well spoken of in this forum.
There is an excellent but incomplete discography at http://henrybebop.co.uk/maxgray.txt. It doesn't answer the OP's question so I asked Stan Reynolds and Bill Geldard. They think the jazz soloist is probably Eddie Blair. The high notes might be by Derek Watkins but are unlikely to by Bert Courtley. Bert Ezzard is a possibility but Stan Roderick or Tony Fisher are a more likely.
The Heath band was arguably at its peak during the 1950's. Connoisseurs of lead trumpet playing should check out Bobby Pratt's work, in particular the duets with Bert Ezzard, which are available on You Tube. Possibly my favourite anecdote is Stan Reynold's story of Bobby being met by a fan as he came off stage at the Hollywood Bowl who said "Gee Mr Pratt, you must be the greatest lead trumpet player in the world". The ever modest Bobby responded "No, the finest lead trumpet in the world is one of your own countrymen, Conrad Gozzo". The fan laughed and said "Allow me to introduce myself - my name is Conrad Gozzo"!
FWIW Stan Reynolds believes that Stan Roderick played lead trumpet on the Dr No soundtrack.
I have the good fortune to play with/for three of the five remaining members of the Ted Heath Band who played under Ted himself and so was very pleased to see the band being well spoken of in this forum.
There is an excellent but incomplete discography at http://henrybebop.co.uk/maxgray.txt. It doesn't answer the OP's question so I asked Stan Reynolds and Bill Geldard. They think the jazz soloist is probably Eddie Blair. The high notes might be by Derek Watkins but are unlikely to by Bert Courtley. Bert Ezzard is a possibility but Stan Roderick or Tony Fisher are a more likely.
The Heath band was arguably at its peak during the 1950's. Connoisseurs of lead trumpet playing should check out Bobby Pratt's work, in particular the duets with Bert Ezzard, which are available on You Tube. Possibly my favourite anecdote is Stan Reynold's story of Bobby being met by a fan as he came off stage at the Hollywood Bowl who said "Gee Mr Pratt, you must be the greatest lead trumpet player in the world". The ever modest Bobby responded "No, the finest lead trumpet in the world is one of your own countrymen, Conrad Gozzo". The fan laughed and said "Allow me to introduce myself - my name is Conrad Gozzo"!
FWIW Stan Reynolds believes that Stan Roderick played lead trumpet on the Dr No soundtrack.
What a lovely forum this is! Couldn´t even imagine that information would come straight from the horse´s mouth (no offense ).
I have 3 - 4 records by the Heath band(s), always impressed with the perfection. The Swing is King albums being recorded by the 4 phase system still have outstanding sound quality. Such a driving forceful beat!
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