Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:52 am Post subject: Urgent: Book suggestion for vacation
Hi Folks
Am going on vacation for a couple of weeks. Have got Big Band rehearsals as soon as I get
back so need to stay in shape! Don't really want to be carrying lots of books around, so
was just wondering what you all thought I should take to keep sound, range, endurance etc...going? If you could recommend 1 or 2 books that would be great!
Got my silent brass at the ready. Was thinking Vizzutti book 1? Plus charlier? To keep it all ticking over! What would you take on vacation to be ready for big band??
Best wishes to all.
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Urgent: Book suggestion for vacation
BBB1976 wrote:
Hi Folks
Am going on vacation for a couple of weeks. Have got Big Band rehearsals as soon as I get
back so need to stay in shape! Don't really want to be carrying lots of books around, so
was just wondering what you all thought I should take to keep sound, range, endurance etc...going? If you could recommend 1 or 2 books that would be great!
Got my silent brass at the ready. Was thinking Vizzutti book 1? Plus charlier? To keep it all ticking over! What would you take on vacation to be ready for big band??
Best wishes to all.
I'd take the band arrangements with me. That way I'd really be ready. _________________ GeorgeB
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:03 am Post subject:
I'd bring Arban, Clarke Technical (actually, I think I have these memorized, so maybe I wouldn't actually bring the book, but I'd practice from it), and Franquin. Also a few of the trickier excerpts from the band book so I wouldn't be fumbling with that when I got back. _________________ Bb Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:08 am Post subject: Urgent: Book suggestion for vacation
Cheers dstdenis
That's a good point, I could practice my Clarke's from memory, which would be fine.
Been meaning to look in Franquin as I haven't got that book-sounds good!
Best wishes.
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:16 am Post subject:
I'd take a little time, (the process might be fun), and make my own book. Make copies of key exercises you think appropriate and carry just that. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
I have all the exercises I need in my head, so my one book on vacation (or not, actually) is a book of vocalises, which are a great way to stay in shape and play something pleasant and musical. _________________ Richard Sandals
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:20 am Post subject:
Why do you need to take anything? Just take the horn - fundamentals are fundamentals and everything relates. You can work on double and triple tonguing through passages using scales and chromatic scales. You can work on single tonguing the same way. Lip slurs are lip slurs - make stuff up. Play arpeggios. Play passages from tunes you know by memory. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Urgent: Book suggestion for vacation
BBB1976 wrote:
To Nonsense Eliminator
Thanks man. Just realized I know a lot of exercises from memory, so will
take your advice. Thanks for your idea.
Glad you like it. After carting a stack of books back and forth to the cottage and only ever opening one of them, I finally wised up... _________________ Richard Sandals
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:22 am Post subject:
Right - forget the books - bring a metronome! You can practice without the book but you can't practice without the ticker! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:32 pm Post subject:
Hello BBB,
Yes, by memory, Clarke and Colin's flexibilities for instance would cover in vacations all the qualities to be in shape, physically, technically, accuracy too.
But be careful with your practice mute, don t overblow, and rest more often and longer.
Warm down very softly and open in the low register can compensate the adverse effects of your practicing with the mute.
Best
FWIW...
I agree with those that say you really don't need
to take any books on vacation.
You can stay in great shape by just practicing long tones,
lip slurs, scales and arpeggios. Practice these throughout the
entire range of your instrument.
I also agree with the person that said to take
it easy with the practice mute.
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:54 pm Post subject:
Turkle wrote:
Right - forget the books - bring a metronome! You can practice without the book but you can't practice without the ticker!
In my experience those that need a metronome in jazz should not be playing it. Oh my, yes, I hear the objections, but really it's true. _________________ Richard
Right - forget the books - bring a metronome! You can practice without the book but you can't practice without the ticker! :)
In my experience those that need a metronome in jazz should not be playing it. Oh my, yes, I hear the objections, but really it's true.
NO... it is NOT true.
That is simply your opinion, and nothing more,
and of course, you are entitled to your opinion.
A metronome is a very important part of practicing,
whether for jazz or legit playing.
In fact, when practicing SCALES, using a
metronome is the best way to develop speed and control.
Likewise, when practicing TUNES, setting the metronome
to where it clicks on beats 2 and 4 of the measure
is an excellent way to develop a sense of TIME and
SWING !!!
This idea is not original with me, I learned it from Rich Matteson
when I was in grad school many years ago at North Texas State University
( now the University of North Texas, of course ).
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject:
Richard III wrote:
In my experience those that need a metronome in jazz should not be playing it.
What about those who use a metronome to development a great sense of time? For example, here's Victor Wooten, one of the finest bass players around, showing how he uses a metronome. Yeah, he has great time even without a metronome, but he developed that great time and maintains it in part by working with a metronome.
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:47 pm Post subject:
dstdenis wrote:
Richard III wrote:
In my experience those that need a metronome in jazz should not be playing it.
What about those who use a metronome to development a great sense of time? For example, here's Victor Wooten, one of the finest bass players around, showing how he uses a metronome. Yeah, he has great time even without a metronome, but he developed that great time and maintains it in part by working with a metronome.
Brilliant!
I think we could all learn a thing or two from guys like this. _________________ -Tom Hall-
"A good teacher protects his pupils from his own influence."
-Bruce Lee
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:42 am Post subject:
Turkle wrote:
Right - forget the books - bring a metronome! You can practice without the book but you can't practice without the ticker!
Some of us can, but not everyone had a good innate sense of time and tempo.
I've often found it astonishing how many musicians can't maintain a steady tempo if they aren't playing with an ensemble or with a click. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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