Conn Improved Precision 5

jojocat · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:08 am Post subject: Conn Improved Precision 5

Hi, I recently bought a Conn IP #5 in gold plating and in like new condition. I got it from a gentleman who ''give'' it to me for $20...I was almost shy to buy it at this price.

Well, I got it mainly cause I was curious of how it sounds. I have a Conn #4 that I like pretty much.
But when I tried it with my Committee Kenosha, the sound was gorgeous rich with a crisp and clear articulation. The mix between the two is really awesome.

The only problem I have with the piece is the cup who is rather small to me. It causes some endurance issues. I'll probably get used to it, but I'm wondering if I could find the same configuration but with a larger rim. I didn't find a lot of infos about Conn #5 specs.

Is it possible to find a similar piece from another maker?

Thanks for any input!
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jojocat · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject:

Any thoughts?
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okayove · Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:54 pm Post subject:

Hi.
Doug M. alias Lipshurt is the guy to talk to. He made me a mouthpiece based
on a conn 4. Works great!
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jojocat · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:01 am Post subject:

Yeah! Finally got some help!

Many thanks. I'll get in touch with him.

Just curious, what are the ''improvements'' he made for you?
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okayove · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:57 am Post subject:

The Conn 4 was a bit small. But we kept the same bowlshape. Then he made the rim just a touch thinner. Now I play both trumpets and cornets with the same mouthpiece. And all for a very reasonable cost😉.

Ove
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jojocat · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:07 am Post subject:

Thanks a lot again. I have a bunch of mouthpieces here and the Conn 5 makes my Leblanc Committee sound VERY close to the original Committee.

That's curious cause I was sure it would sound closer, better and richer with a deeper cup...!!
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jojocat · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:11 am Post subject:

And overall, one question: is it possible that I'll never feel comfortable with the mouthpiece due to lips shape, or will I get used to it over time?

I'm used to play on .660 ID cups or so... the Conn 5 is .646; not a huge difference. Maybe the inside cup edges are too sharp for me...??!!
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okayove · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:47 am Post subject:

I played the Conn 4 for 'about 8 years and never really adopted to it. Most of the time it was fine but some struggle with the small feel. I guess it's all personally. I used the original straight shrank conn 4 without the rim just because I play on various old Conn horns most of the time. The new piece that's Doug made me works great on almost all my horns except a 1952 28B and a Selmer Grand Prix from 1932. I still use the Conn 4 on the 28B and a Selmer 3special on the Selmer. I never really get my **** together with the Conn 5 or the Constellation pieces. 😉
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Dale Proctor · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:45 am Post subject:

The Conn 5 is a narrow, shallow mouthpiece. It came standard with the 6B trumpet, and that's why I have one. It's too small for me, though... I'd guess the best alternative if you want to stick with vintage Conn mouthpieces is something in the Connstellation line. Have a look at this:

https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnMpcConny.html
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jojocat · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:22 am Post subject:

Hey Dale, sorry I see your post now...

After a few weeks I stiil try to get comfortable with this damn Conn 5 but I think it's hopeless. I can't use to it.

I play the piece for 5 minutes and I feel like a player with 2 months of experience. Then I take any other and it's a whole different story.

It's a shame cause what a sound!!
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