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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Jazz etudes? Reply with quote

Howdy, all.

I love practicing etudes. Charlier, Clarke, Arban, Brandt, etc. Most of my playing is jazz these days, and revisiting my favorite etudes, and of course learning new ones, is a perfect way to make sure I'm challenging myself on the absolute bedrock fundamentals and musicianship.

But all the etudes I currently play are either those classic cornet or classical trumpet studies.

My question is: I've seen books of jazz etudes around. Have any of you folks used any of these? Are they worth adding to my arsenal? Are there any you would specifically recommend?

Currently, when I need a "jazz etude" I just read through Charlie Parker or Clifford Brown transcriptions, or similar. So maybe that's enough!

Thanks! And cheers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gotten many nice reviews for The Melody Lingers On — 24 Melodic Jazz Solos for Trumpet.

They were originally called etudes but later we changed the name to solos. Same thing, really.

These come with play-along tracks to help keep you (or get you) honest.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are tons of books you can play from, qPress has a ton right here. In the end you just find the material that you love to play and inspires you to pick up the horn and practice. That is what great material can do for you. Play it all till it gets stale and pick up something new to give you a boost.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if, or where, it might be available but Jazz Conception for Saxophone (20 Jazz Etudes) by Lennie Niehaus is one I like. Since it's for saxophone, it also stretches your high register a little. It was originally published by Try Publishing Co, Hollywood, CA.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of the Tristano/Lee Konitz/Warne Marsh tunes are great etudes, you should check them out.

For example, Wow:

http://www.warnemarsh.info/images/wow2.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich Willey's are in the trumpet range.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Jazz etudes? Reply with quote

Turkle wrote:
Howdy, all.


Currently, when I need a "jazz etude" I just read through Charlie Parker or Clifford Brown transcriptions, or similar. So maybe that's enough!

Thanks! And cheers.


I don't know how far you are into your Jazz studies (This is more of a general idea for everyone). I think it is awesome you are looking for as many resources as you can! I think that transcriptions from the solos of the great players are probably the best "Jazz Etudes" out there.

The Charlie Parker omnibook is filled with technically challenging lines even for the most advanced players! But I think that the greatest value of practicing Parker's solos is the LANGUAGE you can take out from them (Articulations, phrasing, resolutions, change running, etc!). I have yet to see a Jazz Etude that gives me better ideas for lines in real playing situations than any transcription from the great Jazz musicians we love! (This is my opinion of course) It's like killing 2 birds with one stone.

So in short words, Jazz etudes are great! but I am sure I am going to shed the Parker omnibook for the rest of my life.

Hope it helps!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also look at Advanced Rhythms by Joe Allard. Those can get pretty challenging.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoy Etudes as well. Search on your own and you'll often find good things.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carubia - Legit Etudes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Help yourself to stuff off my site. (link below)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Snidero books (There's another one coming with Jeremy Pelt playing on the recording. I just did some proof reading for Jim.)

Rich Willey books.

Charlie Parker Omnibook in Bb and in Eb (for lead player range).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH wrote:
Jim Snidero books


Thanks, those look really good.

Cheers folks, thanks for the suggestions.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found that working on the heads of really hard bebop tunes is immensely helpful. Try some Dizzy tunes and things such as Donna Lee. They help build accuracy and are a great source for harmonic and melodic ideas. Once you can play them at full speed (typically 200+ bpm), then push it one further by trying to play along with a recording. Start with some sort of sheet music and get to the point of sounding identical to the recording, including blending with it. Once you have that, memorize the tune and play along to that same level. In the end you will OWN that tune and will have become a better player in the process. After you have mastered one tune, do the same thing with another. It's a never-ending cycle. Well... at least until you run out of music. If you do that though, I think it would be safe to call you a virtuoso.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's certainly nothing wrong with playing jazz heads and the like, but it's not exactly "developmental" in the sense of taking stereotypical licks, isolating them, and developing them in a traditional, pedagogical sense.

Books for sax players seem to concentrate on this more. See books by Bob Mintzer, Lennie Niehaus, and Jerry Coker.

Does anybody know of a book for trumpeters, (more limited range for example), that is like Lennie Niehaus's Jazz Conception For Saxophone series?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat Harbison books
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