Vintage mouthpieces....Zottola and Al Cass and others

schallk

I am beginning to sell my father-in-laws collection of trumpet and flugel horn mouthpieces. He started playing the trumpet in school in the 1940's and continued into the late 1980s.
I have about 18 Zottola mouthpieces (trumpet and flugelhorn) and 3 Al Cass, different eras of Bach (Mt. Vernon, New York etc) plus many other various kinds - about 80 total.
I listed one Zottola on ebay. It has received about 100 views in 2 days. However, I can find nothing to rely on for fair pricing for the Zottola and Al Cass. All I have seen is references to Al Cass mouthpieces selling for obscene amounts of money. I want to be fair in my pricing. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I might add I am not a trumpet player. What I have learned about mouthpieces has been over the last several months of surfing the internet and some booklets he had from different manufacturers. Any help would be appreciated. I joined this forum last summer just to be able to ask this question! Thank you.
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Kristina Schaller

TKSop · Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:21 pm Post subject:

When it comes to the big ticket prices, the model is everything, to say nothing of condition.

For example, a Mt Vernon Bach in excellent condition could be worth anything from about $30 for the common models (7c & 10.5c in particular) up to well over $500 for a 1, 1c, 1.25c, 1.5c, etc.

Irving · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 1887

You will find out what the mouthpiece is worth w hen the auction ends if you don't have a reserve price.

deleted_user_02066fd · New Member Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0

Frank Zotolla's sons Bobby and Glen are still active. Bobby is in Florida and Glen is in California I think. Pretty sure they are on Facebook. Try contacting them, they may be able to help.

schallk · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:40 am Post subject:

Thanks. I knew Glen Zottola had commented in this forum in the past. I found both on facebook and sent Bob Zottola a message.
At least I know the Zottola are popular on Ebay....at least with the scammers - 2 of which have slithered out of the woodwork to offer me $1000 to just ship "it now"! The check will be in the mail....ha ha.
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Kristina Schaller

Beaker · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:21 am Post subject:

I used to play a Zottola eons ago back in my high school days. I would be interested in seeing which ones you have.
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Benge (L.A. era), Bach 5C, Benge 7C
ACB Doubler Flugel
Taylor acoustics, G&L and Carvin basses
Flatiron mandolin, Strat/Tele/LP electrics

schallk · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:02 am Post subject:

As you can see, Dad was a fan of Zottola.....
These are the trumpet mouthpieces:
Zottola Port Chester NY Patented 2 Symphony 64B
Zottola Port Chester NY 62 BS
Zottola Port Chester NY 66A
Zottola Port Chester NY 64B
Zottola Port Chester NY Patented 62B
Zottola Port Chester NY 64A
Zottola Port Chester NY Patented 62C
Zottola Port Chester NY .655B
Zottola Port Chester NY Patented 64C
Zottola DEC 73 5 Patented 62E ˅
Zottola Port Chester NY 66B
Zottola Port Chester NY 66B
Zottola Port Chester NY Patented 64B ˅
Flugel Horn:
ZOTTOLA 63 FL
ZOTTOLA 64 FL
ZOTTOLA 64 FL
ZOTTOLA 66 FL
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Kristina Schaller

ChopsGone · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1793

As far as I know, Dick Akright never followed through with production of the Zottola mouthpieces, but I could be wrong. At any rate, he did put up a handy description of the line.

http://users.rcn.com/rakright/

I have three of them myself, and have always liked them. One isn't shown in the model list, but I assume it's just a rim-width variation (a 65A - W). My others are B cup trumpet models, one of which was cut to make a two-piece using Warburton threads - and here I thought the big thing about the Zottolas was always the stepped backbore.
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Beaker · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:18 am Post subject:

I note three different 64Bs. Any idea about the differences?
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Benge (L.A. era), Bach 5C, Benge 7C
ACB Doubler Flugel
Taylor acoustics, G&L and Carvin basses
Flatiron mandolin, Strat/Tele/LP electrics

schallk · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:43 am Post subject:

I would suggest looking at the link posted in this thread of the descriptions. Sorry, but II personally don't know the differences but the list may help.
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nieuwguyski · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:01 am Post subject: