G/F trumpet

Barrett_GrayTrpt · New Member Joined: 15 Jul 2009 Posts: 2

I'm in the market for a new (or good used) G/F trumpet. I'm currently playing on a Yamaha YTR-9710, but was informed by two Yamaha reps that they have discontinued the series. I'm also considering a Schilke G1L. Does anyone have or know where I can find either of these horns? All help appreciated.

Crazy Finn · Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject:

Washington Music - http://www.wmcworld.com/ - carries lots of stuff - Yamahas, Schilkes, even the new Shires and is the exclusive dealer for Tony Scodwell's trumpets. In general, their prices are among the best.

Yamaha's are fairly common and carried most places. However, most stores probably wouldn't stock a G/F horn. Schilke's are less common but the same applies to the G horn.

Pro Winds used to carry lots of specialized pro horns, but I'm not sure what they currently do. WWBW/Musician's Friend used to as well - but dealing with them is always an interesting proposition.

You could always stop by the Schilke shop in Chicago. They ought to have one.
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MarkZ · Heavyweight Member Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 615

I noticed that Thompson Music has both a used Schilke G1L and a used Yamaha G/F. That seems like a rare opportunity. http://thompsonmusic.com/store/page3.html I bought my E3L from there. Good people.

WMC and Dillon Music are also excellent places to look.

loudog · Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject:

I was just going to recommend Thompson's...I've got my eye on that Yammie...and I've even got the cash for it...

But I think my fiancee would KILL me if I went and bought it, considering we're getting married in 6 months...

Thompson's rules...Mike is a super guy.
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johntpt · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:52 am Post subject:

I agree that Thompson Music is a great place to shop for a trumpet.

Even though I'm partial to Schilke's, that Yamaha is a much better deal, although the Schilke will give you more options down the road, such as adding an E natural bell if you think that would be useful to you.

I see that Dillon Music has a used Stomvi on the website for a very reasonable price, although I have no idea how those play.

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texastrumpeter · Regular Member Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 61

I am the former owner of the Yammie at Thompson's found myself w/ 2 F/G's and traded that one off. Good Luck! It's good to add an F/G to your arsenal!

Brian Moon · Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject:

johntpt · Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:19 am Post subject:

Horntrader has an old Selmer G for a great price right now - a great way to learn the G trumpet.

JU

Steve A · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:11 pm Post subject:

Bumping an old thread:

I'm maybe interested in a G/F trumpet, and am wondering about the differences between the Schilke and Yamaha models. (And if there are any other players to consider.)

Can anyone share informed opinions?

gjarrell · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:34 pm Post subject:

Good luck finding someone who's played both.

I have a Yamaha that plays great, as expected. I think there are those who would like a bigger bell for the F setup, but that's a pricey upcharge from the Yamaha to the Schilke and begs the value question. Don't know what someone might charge to make a bigger F bell...$750+?

How do I use it? So far, it's been a solo instrument, but I did have an occasion to play the Vivaldi Gloria where it worked like a charm (in G mode).

Sometimes, you'll find the Yamaha for sale in the $2000 to $2500 range, which is a bargain in relative terms for this rare instrument.
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Andy Del · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:51 pm Post subject:

If you want a G piccolo that works great, get a Scherzer. Apart from they're like rocking horse poop (rather rare), they play like no other G I have played, including Yamaha (nice, but small sound), Schilke (G14-L - it's a bit unfocused and tubby) or Bach (seemed OK, but it was years ago).

Just sit about and wait for a second hand one to appear! (bring popcorn so you don't go hungry, it will be a while)

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johntpt · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:49 am Post subject:

The Yamaha G bell is a piccolo size bell, making it best for things like Cantata 51, but not so great as an orchestral instrument.

The standard Schilke bell is larger and they offer the option of purchasing 3 different G bells, plus an E natural bell to be used with the F slides, making it much more flexible.

JU

AJCarter · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:20 am Post subject:

James Becker · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:11 am Post subject:

As a Schilke dealer we'd be more than happy to special order for you a G1L with any number of bell/key options you wish.

On a related note, should anyone be interested, I've successfully converted several Getzen 300 series (medium bore/short model) Eb/D trumpets to G and one to F/G. This could be the best use of these trumpets as the scale can be a bit dicey in the original keys, but very good when reduced to a Schilke style G with tuning bell and new leadpipe.

I hope this is helpful.
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brass crusader · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:49 am Post subject:

I've got a 4-digit SN Schilke G1 with both F and G slides and bells for sale in the marketplace at the moment, priced well below others and new horns. Give it a look and feel free to email me for photos if you'd like more.

MRtpt · Regular Member Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 58

I haven't played a Schillke - I bet they are marvelous. I have played Selmer G's and love the sound. There's a Selmer on ebay if you have any interest.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Trompete-Piccolo-hoch-G-Selmer/192393300910?hash=item2ccb88cbae:g:M1wAAOSw6VRaLWw7
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Bstradivarius · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:23 pm Post subject:

For any Soprano trumpet set up with tuning bell, with a leadpipe directed straight into 3rd valve, the 3rd valve dries up very quickly, quicker than the other valves. This is because the 3rd valve is exposed to the air more directly.

In addition to oiling the valves after storage, I recommend putting a few drops of valve oil down the lead pipe each time before moving that valve, particularly after storing it for a few months. Then at least the first use of the 3rd valve is not totally dry.
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