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hacknfrack Regular Member
Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 13 Location: Kingsville, TX
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:22 am Post subject: Building a mouthpiece display rack/case |
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I have asked a woodworking friend of mine to build a mouthpiece display rack for my studio so they’re not all rolling around in a desk drawer and was wondering if anyone had done this. I’d like to make sure I’m giving him accurate specs (friend is about 1000 miles away) and not guessing.
I’m estimating the holes would need to be drilled about 1” deep. I figured a drill bit size based on measuring the mouthpiece shank circumference at the 1” height and converting to diameter, but if someone knows the correct size, that would be better. I’m also thinking 1.5” between the holes.
I’d like it to be able to hold about 40 mouthpieces.
Thanks for any numerical aid. |
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Paladin53 Regular Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2015 Posts: 34
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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7/16 for trumpet mouthpiece and 25/64 for a cornet should allow about 1 inch of insertion.
3/8 hole for the cornet will let it drop about 3/4 of an inch.
I think I would drill the hole a little deeper than insertion. That way it will be snug in the hole and not resting on the rim of the shank.
You might just mail him a couple of mouthpieces and let him figure it out. |
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stumac Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 697 Location: Flinders, Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest a stepped rack say 4 steps high, the first step 2" high, then 1-1/2". Make the rack from 1-1/2" x 1/2" with 1/2" holes at 1-1/2" spacing, this will allow easy access to the MPs and allow the markings to be seen.
Just how I would approach.
Regards, Stuart. |
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mykindablue New Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2014 Posts: 5 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Somebody really needs to start mass producing these |
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:16 am Post subject: |
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mykindablue wrote: | Somebody really needs to start mass producing these |
I agree.
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ljazztrm Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2001 Posts: 2681 Location: Queens and upstate, NY
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I would like one I could affix vertically to the wall so I could just reach over and grab a piece. They'd just have to be a way that they fit very snugly so they don't fall out and onto the floor..but not so snugly that they are hard to get out. Maybe some type of mechanism that locks them in..but in a way that I could still just take one out easily. _________________ Mpcs: Jim New-Manley Jazz1/Jazz2/Jazz4/Lead3. Legends MF1. Reeves 39EX/HV. Frost 39MVD. Flugel: Jim NewMF3. Jim New-Manley F1+F2. Pickett MF. Reeves HF.
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would build it with a sheet on top for the mouthpieces, just holes drilled, instead of a solid block of wood so moisture, bacteria, and other "gunk" does not accumulate in the bottom. Something like this: http://www.currympc.com/index.php?id=24 -- using wood, of course, instead of plastic, but the idea is to keep it open so they dry out. My original idea, never implemented, was a box with a lid and vent holes to protect them but with an internal piece to hold the mouthpieces suspended over the bottom, an enclosed version of Mark's holder plus a lid. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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gstump Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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mykindablue wrote: | Somebody really needs to start mass producing these |
I do!!! For years!!! _________________ Schilke B5
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2893 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Would the mouthpieces not tarnish badly in an open rack? I have an old Conn Connstellation mouthpiece case I bought on Ebay for 99p that holds about ten mouthpieces and they never tarnish much in it. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
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Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Yes, thus the idea of making a box instead of an open display, but without the bottom sealed.
New version, gstump? _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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halfgreek12 Veteran Member
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ljazztrm Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Would the mouthpieces not tarnish badly in an open rack? I have an old Conn Connstellation mouthpiece case I bought on Ebay for 99p that holds about ten mouthpieces and they never tarnish much in it.
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Yarp, but, if you want to sell one or something, just wrap it in tinfoil and boil it along with some baking soda, water, and white vinegar. _________________ Mpcs: Jim New-Manley Jazz1/Jazz2/Jazz4/Lead3. Legends MF1. Reeves 39EX/HV. Frost 39MVD. Flugel: Jim NewMF3. Jim New-Manley F1+F2. Pickett MF. Reeves HF.
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1283
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:14 am Post subject: |
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As an option, I have copied and pasted below what I submitted three days ago on another thread (“Hard Cases”). This is not to deter the OP from having his friend make the rack, but more for those of us who don’t have such a friend. This is also mainly for those who would prefer a case over a display rack.
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Two weeks ago, I bought two of the following small cases to house a bunch of mouthpieces:
Product #12680 Weatherproof hard case, 10x8x4 (inches)
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=117&cp_id=11703&cs_id=1170305&p_id=12680&seq=1&format=2
I can fit over 30 trumpet/cornet/flugel mpcs standing up. The cases snap shut with a very firm seal. Cost was $22.75 ea = $45.50 + about $15 s/h/tax = ~$62 total. Both cases are now filled, btw.
It took me awhile to learn the best way to pick the foam. I ended up doing the following:
• I pulled the foam padding out of the case.
• I chose where I was going to pick the first foam piece. I decided there would be enough clearance to keep the lid from hitting the mouthpiece rim by selecting a foam piece only one foam piece in and over from a corner.
• I used an ice pick to gently "separate" the walls of that one piece. As I worked downward (toward the center of the foam padding), I could tell when I was about half way. At that point, I started with the ice pick on the same foam piece from the other side. All I had to do then was "separate" the viewable side of that foam piece and then go back to the first side and just push the foam piece with the ice pick. It would then gently dislodge intact without tearing up the inner walls and pulling material from adjacent foam pieces. Be careful not to stab yourself. You could also use a small knife. I tried multiple ways before discovering/stumbling upon this "technique." It consistently worked from then on. I would guess that the larger cases with larger foam pieces will not be as difficult to remove.
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Pic #1: My first “mouthpiece case” for housing extra mouthpieces that I got spring 2016…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dj27bd5iw87e7p1/1st%20mpc%20storage%20case.JPG?dl=0
Case is 10x9x2.5 inches, so I have to lay the mpcs down, and without a rag on top, they just roll around inside.
Pic #2: The outside of the two newer Monoprice cases (10x8x4)…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhgif8l14f67qy4/Monoprice%20case%20outside.JPG?dl=0
Pic 3: The 1st of the two Monoprice cases, where you can see some double holes and offset holes as I worked through spacing holes and removing foam pieces. Not perfect, but usable…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7s76fwbur6cgsrl/Monoprice%20case%20%231.JPG?dl=0
Pic 4: The 2nd of the two Monoprice cases…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/58p9z1ijo00sm5x/Monoprice%20case%20%232.JPG?dl=0
You can see the one Curry flugel mpc with its shank pointing toward its hole. Because of its weight and the fact that its shank does not rest on the bottom case padding, the opening to the hole has taken the shape of the mpc top, which is kind of cool.
I plan to swab out each mpc before reinserting it after use. I know that would be a concern for many, that is, the accumulation of moisture inside a small, enclosed case.
These cases can house between 30-40 mpcs.
In an ideal world, I’d have plastic windows above/beneath each mpc slot for labeling and to provide a way to switch out labels as needed.
Another thing to consider is one of these would provide you with a safe way to transport several mpcs, in case you're headed to, say, a recording session, where you're not quite sure what the music will be.
If I had it to do over again, I would probably buy a larger case to house all of my extra, not-regularly-used mpcs. I may consider selling these cases if anyone wants to send me a pm. (This is not an official advertisement.)
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jiarby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Go to Jo Ann Fabrics
Look at the thread bobbin storage racks.
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: |
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The Doc Severinsen signature mouthpiece storage system.
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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jiarby wrote: | Go to Jo Ann Fabrics
Look at the thread bobbin storage racks.
You're Welcome |
I don't know - it will only hold 60 mouthpieces.
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lgt0412 Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2012 Posts: 462 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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That thread bobbin holder is a great find!!!
I was looking for a good way to store my mouthpieces for as little $$ as possible and came up with this. 4 different PVC parts and there you go, instant mouthpiece holder!!! The setup pictured cost me about $7.00 and the design makes it possible to add as many more holders as you could ever need!!! It's not the prettiest thing in the world, but for $4.00 to $7.00 for every 8 mouthpieces it will hold, I'm happy!!
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scott@95603 Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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lgt0412 wrote: | That thread bobbin holder is a great find!!!
I was looking for a good way to store my mouthpieces for as little $$ as possible and came up with this. 4 different PVC parts and there you go, instant mouthpiece holder!!! The setup pictured cost me about $7.00 and the design makes it possible to add as many more holders as you could ever need!!! It's not the prettiest thing in the world, but for $4.00 to $7.00 for every 8 mouthpieces it will hold, I'm happy!!
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Clever! Is there anything growing in the bottom tube, or do you dry each piece before you put it away? _________________ Schilke B3 '78
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WillyCook Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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scott@95603 wrote: | lgt0412 wrote: | That thread bobbin holder is a great find!!!
I was looking for a good way to store my mouthpieces for as little $$ as possible and came up with this. 4 different PVC parts and there you go, instant mouthpiece holder!!! The setup pictured cost me about $7.00 and the design makes it possible to add as many more holders as you could ever need!!! It's not the prettiest thing in the world, but for $4.00 to $7.00 for every 8 mouthpieces it will hold, I'm happy!!
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Clever! Is there anything growing in the bottom tube, or do you dry each piece before you put it away? |
As of right now its perfectly clean (i just did this earlier today lol). For the future it wont be a big deal because these are pieces i rarely ever will play. But in theory, yes a good cleaning before storing them would probably be a good idea! _________________ Bach Stradivarius 37, Bach Stradivarius 43, Bach Stradivarius NY7, Bach Stradivarius 239, Bach Stradivarius Long Model Cornet 37, Bach 5C, Bach 3C Megatone
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Gregory Gilmore Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: Mouthpiece rack... |
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Laurie Frink used a pipe holder... |
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