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malden Regular Member
Joined: 01 Feb 2018 Posts: 38 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:09 am Post subject: Large hands |
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The XL hands that are an advantage for the piano become cumbersome for the trumpet. I have a difficult time holding a trumpet comfortably in my hands, its like hugging a toothpick. And this discomfort translates into tension that I can feel all the way into by shoulder and tension is bad news.
I recently found an instrument that feels better in my hands, its a Conn 38A Short Cornet.
Can any of you suggest a trumpet with a wider wrap I might try out? Or am I going to be restricted to cornets? And what other cornets would you suggest?
I am having a lot of fun playing but I need equipment help.
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Large hands |
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malden wrote: | The XL hands that are an advantage for the piano become cumbersome for the trumpet. I have a difficult time holding a trumpet comfortably in my hands, its like hugging a toothpick. And this discomfort translates into tension that I can feel all the way into by shoulder and tension is bad news.
I recently found an instrument that feels better in my hands, its a Conn 38A Short Cornet.
Can any of you suggest a trumpet with a wider wrap I might try out? Or am I going to be restricted to cornets? And what other cornets would you suggest?
I am having a lot of fun playing but I need equipment help.
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I have large hands and cannot wrap the trumpet with my left hand like most folks do. HOWEVER, for posture, air flow, and all that good stuff, I will either use the split fingers approach (Freddie Hubbard style) or just my hand almost underneath the valves (Maynard style). This helps with comfort, and to keep my horn up. _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Regarding wider wrap horns, the older Conn Constellations, the Kanstul 991 and Adams A6 have that older Conn Constellation-style wider wrap construction.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Brad361 wrote: | Regarding wider wrap horns, the older Conn Constellations, the Kanstul 991 and Adams A6 have that older Conn Constellation-style wider wrap construction.
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I have an Adams A4, but just realized I've never wrapped my hand around it to see the width...or should I say height. _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:36 am Post subject: |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7010 Location: AZ
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have extra large hands, too. I have learned to hold the trumpet by my fingers, not my palms, if that makes sense. In other words my grip is a bit loose, not the tight, "wring its neck" grip I see some guys use.
As far as horns go, the various Constellation designs are good, as mentioned above. Also, the Adams A4, Wild Thing, Edwards X-13, while not as wide between the top and bottom pipes, still have more room than most.
Stay away from Burbank, Schilke, and Yamaha (if my memory serves), plus Bach 190S 7/7, if left hand room is a big problem. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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theslawdawg wrote: | Brad361 wrote: | Regarding wider wrap horns, the older Conn Constellations, the Kanstul 991 and Adams A6 have that older Conn Constellation-style wider wrap construction.
Brad |
I have an Adams A4, but just realized I've never wrapped my hand around it to see the width...or should I say height. |
Not positive, but I think the A6 is wider/“higher” than the A4....I own neither though, so I may be incorrect.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 1021 Location: East Asia
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have big hands (xl gloves usually fit but barely) and always assumed it was an advantage. Brother was a trumpet player and taught me what at the time he called "pistol grip," where the third finger goes through the 3rd valve slide and the pinky and ring finger wrap underneath the third slide. If you're holding just by the valve block, I could see a problem, but if the thumb goes in the thumb ring and you're using the ring on the third valve slide, should be enough space. |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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The picture I have up now for my profile picture isn't great, but it's of me using my pocket trumpet. You might like pocket trumpets also because they are thick and unwieldy, but not bad for those of us with giant hands. |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel wrote: | The picture I have up now for my profile picture isn't great, but it's of me using my pocket trumpet. You might like pocket trumpets also because they are thick and unwieldy, but not bad for those of us with giant hands. |
Good point! _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Lawler TL horns have also large and comfortable wrap but today is not easy to find one.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
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