Too much spit?

ejweiss · Veteran Member Joined: 15 May 2009 Posts: 297 Location: WI

I have to empty my spit a lot! I have seen Doc perform live several times and he hardly empties. When he does, not much! I am a fairly strong player, but is too much spit a sign of some other problem - like too wide of an aperture. Talk amongst yourselves.

joefab · Veteran Member Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 181

I have the exact same problem!

I have always wondered why. Hopefully, someone can shed some light about it....

spitvalve · Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject:

I think Doc blows the spit all the way through the horn!
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Juergen · Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject:

Generally when it's really cold you get more spit so maybe you need to play in a warmer room?
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shofarguy · Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject:

Al Cass valve oil???

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ejweiss · Veteran Member Joined: 15 May 2009 Posts: 297 Location: WI

I use Blue Juice

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Wes Clarke · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:13 am Post subject:

I saw Jon Faddis a couple of weeks before Christmas. (Row A, by the way.) He pulls the tuning slide off the horn and dumps it. Great show.
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bilboinsa · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:32 am Post subject:

It's a combination of spit and condensation. I know, bc when I buz my mpc, on the way to church on Sundays, I get SPIT out of it. When I buzz my lips only, I get spit out of them. I NEED some spit to have the lips vibrate well--I don't think dry lips will vibrate at all--the air just glides over the surface. It's normal. Different folks let out different amounts of spit. Don't let it bug you. Concentrate on the things that really matter---tone, range, tone, articulation, tone, intonation and tone.
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The Kraken · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:45 am Post subject:

this Happens to me also, " ALOT OF SPIT " however only some times. What I do see all the time is either spit and or condensation don't know which dripping out of the Bell of the Horn. So am I blowing to hard? I play a softly as I can.

SPIT !!! What a Topic !!

ejweiss · Veteran Member Joined: 15 May 2009 Posts: 297 Location: WI

this is serious guys. i was hoping for a solution so i can sleep tonight.

shofarguy · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject:

HornnOOb · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: Too Much Water/Spit - Me Too

kirkpatrickerson · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:48 am Post subject:

I wouldn't be too worried about it. I tend to notice that I have to empty my spit out a bit more often than other members in my section, but it also could be that we just don't notice other people emptying theirs (I mean, why would you?).

I think it's just one of those things. Some people's mouthpieces discolor faster than others, some people have more spit, etc. We're all normal.

veery715 · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:34 am Post subject:

How you hold your horn may be a factor. If the water collects in a bend - say the tuning slide curve where the water key is - it will stand a better chance of interfering with the air/sound/standing wave. If the node of the standing wave for the pitch you are playing coincides with the location of the water, you will get more gurgling.

So something you can try is to raise or lower the bell so water is spread out over a longer length of tubing. Also when you let the water out, does it come out easily? Sometimes there is a burr on the inside of the tubing where the water key nipple is and it won't let all the water out. You can put an eyedropper or two of water (or just fill your mouth with water) in the receiver, and then open the key and let it drain. Then turn the horn around and see if any comes back out the receiver. If you get a good spill when you dump it, then maybe there is a burr which needs to be removed.
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Abraxas · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:15 pm Post subject:

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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:45 am Post subject:

It doesn't have to be from cold. I live in an environment that's hot and humid and it's definitely worse than before (think humidity hovers in the 90s year round). For some people mouthpiece/instrument also seems to make a difference.

Dale Proctor · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:02 am Post subject:

I've always generated more water in my horns than most. In any ensemble, my chair is the one with the big puddle in front of it. It's worse when playing a cold horn or in a cold place, so some of it (but not all) is condensation. Been that way for me for over 50 years, so I don't think it's going to change. You just have to be aware of it and empty more often.
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Abraxas · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:40 am Post subject:

I'm a novice and it's not just accumulation that troubles me. I can sense that I am emitting a spray when I play and it affects the sound, right at the mpc, before it even accumulates. It adds a raspiness, bordering on gurgling, to the sound and that bugs me to no end. I do, from time to time find a better emboucher to give it a cleaner, purer, drier sound. I guess it's just a matter of practice to find that spot more often but it would be nice to identify what it is I'm doing differently between the good technique and bad as I haven't discovered what it is yet.