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Pablopiccasso Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:33 am Post subject: Getzen plastic |
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I love my Getzen trumpet but the plastic third slide stops are a pain. Anyone got a better alternative to stopping the third slide falling out? |
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oxleyk Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Getzen plastic |
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Pablopiccasso wrote: | I love my Getzen trumpet but the plastic third slide stops are a pain. Anyone got a better alternative to stopping the third slide falling out? |
A Bach- or Yamaha-style stop could be installed. Yamaha sells a silicone rubber band that loops on the finger ring to keep the slide in place.
What about the comb don't you like? |
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2827 Location: Littleton, MA
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:34 am Post subject: |
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For older style Getzens we've added the newer style stop/trim ring to the top tube along with the newer style push ring, the ones that have a nub on the bottom. Otherwise, I'd suggest a fabric covered hair elastic. _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com
Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Premium Polybands by ElasticU
These are available in multiple sizes.. they're pretty tough (don't break often), and won't mess up the finish on your trumpet. Don't use recgular rubber bands as they react badly with ssilver plating.
Or have a tech mount a slide stop mechanism _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: |
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If you leave the Yamaha slide stopper on the trumpet while resting in the case, will it eventually damage the finish or is it benign? Thanks.
https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Trumpet-Silicone-Slide-Stopper/dp/B01FCCYXE4 _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Just a guess, but I don’t believe silicone would affect the finish. I know from experience that natural rubber WILL.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Brad361 wrote: | I know from experience that natural rubber WILL. |
You can thank Charles Goodyear for that one.
The sulfur used to vulcanize the rubber attacks the silver - the black spots where the rubber band was is Silver Sulfide.
Now you know,
Gary. |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Shifty Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2013 Posts: 250 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Getzen plastic |
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Pablopiccasso wrote: | I love my Getzen trumpet but the plastic third slide stops are a pain. Anyone got a better alternative to stopping the third slide falling out? |
To each his own, but I've always viewed the plastic comb as a pretty elegant solution. It keeps the slide from falling out and provides some flexibility as to how far you want to be able to extend the slide. Easy to remove and reinstall. No impact on resonance. No interaction with silver plating.
I like mine so much I was surprised that Getzen quit using them on newer models, although I like the new design equally well. Unless you go with the mod suggested by Mr Becker, I think you'd find the rubber band options a much bigger pain than the comb. _________________ Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Just like the Amado keys I find it pretty slick. Replacements are readily available. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
King Silver Flair
Besson 1000
Bundy
Chinese C
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Rajesh New Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2018 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:12 pm Post subject: A piece of string works for me |
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I cut a piece of string and tied loops in each end. I looped it through itself around the lower brace on the third valve slide then I popped off the second valve slide and put the other loop end there. There's just enough slack to allow me to move the third valve slide as much as I need, but not enough for it to fall off. It took several tries to get the length right.
Later I discovered you can buy those black plastic things on the net, but my string works fine. |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: A piece of string works for me |
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Rajesh wrote: | I cut a piece of string .... |
Same here. I use a piece of string on my horns that don't have a 3rd valve slide stop. I tie a simple bow, and leave just enough slack for the slide to move.
Mike
_________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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MGTrumpet Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:54 am Post subject: |
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FWIW, I've always used an old leather boot lace cut to the right length.
I've never had any problem with it. |
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