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ljazztrm
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Phil Driscoll plays a mouthpiece that is exactly the same as my vintage T2A. I have his copy that Monette made for him 20+ years ago top compare. Both are a little to large for me now. |
Phil is a Roy Stevens/Roy Roman cat. These guys tend to play really big diameters Best. Lex
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| ljazztrm wrote: | | Quote: |
Phil Driscoll plays a mouthpiece that is exactly the same as my vintage T2A. I have his copy that Monette made for him 20+ years ago top compare. Both are a little to large for me now. |
Phil is a Roy Stevens/Roy Roman cat. These guys tend to play really big diameters Best. Lex |
They were great back when my classical mouthpiece was a Schilke 22E4e. Since I came to my senses some 30 years ago and went to Monette 1-5 diameter rims (yes, they existed even then).
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Monette makes some GREAT lead and commercial pieces. And the new Bach commercial pieces are very good as well. "Those guys" should listen to the product and look at their parts a little less down their nose....keep playing what works for you.
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| cbtj51 wrote: | | ljazztrm wrote: | | Quote: |
Monette makes some GREAT lead and commercial pieces. And the new Bach commercial pieces are very good as well. "Those guys" should listen to the product and look at their parts a little less down their nose....keep playing what works for you.
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ljazztrm
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Monette makes some GREAT lead and commercial pieces. And the new Bach commercial pieces are very good as well. "Those guys" should listen to the product and look at their parts a little less down their nose....keep playing what works for you.
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I have a Jet Tone Leon Merian Personal mouthpiece that has an interesting double-cup design. He sounded great on it but I could hardly play it last time I tried (several years ago). I'm keeping it because I got it from him.
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ljazztrm
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Matt Lavalle, a great free jazz trumpet player here in the NYC area who used to play with Ornette, plays one of those Merian Jet-Tones. He gets a huge, beautiful fat sound on it. For me the diameter is too big and the bite is too sharp.
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| Brad361 wrote: | | I have seen Doc make mpce changes during a performance twice (on one occasion he dropped it), but I never really thought he was trying to hide anything, just making a switch to something he preferred for a particular sound. |
Don't know if he was trying to hide it or not, but when I saw him at the Meyerson in Dallas a few years ago, I was sitting quite close, and he changed mouthpieces several times. I couldn't see how many he had out with him, since they were on a podium like stand in front of him.
Whatever he was using, he sounded fantastic.
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Pops
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Some players like to play on a cool mouthpiece and will have a couple of the exact same mouthpiece on stage and switch back and forth to keep that cool on the lips. They feel like it helps them play longer before the swelling kicks in.
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Mac Gollehon
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| Hey Pops that’s a great post. Back in the mid seventies when I was working the combat zone clubs in Boston it was organ,drums and Trumpet non stop music from 7pm to 3am seven nights a week for 3 years. I had 2 mouthpieces and I kept one mouthpiece in a cup of ice and played on the other alternating about every hour. Worked very well and yes that B3 organ thru Leslie speakers was a challenge to cut thru all night. |
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JVL
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hello Pops,
One year ago, i noticed the same thing when putting on my mpc a booster made by Alexis Roiron, during my long classical music sessions.
It seems that the booster takes away from the rim part of the heath.
I have the feeling that it gives me more stamina for this kind of session.
But it's not on an eventual "swelling", which usually doesn't happen to me.
I don't like to play on cold mpc, which can affect really badly my playing.
Hot mpc doesn't bother me.
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king leopardi
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| Pops wrote: | | Some players like to play on a cool mouthpiece and will have a couple of the exact same mouthpiece on stage and switch back and forth to keep that cool on the lips. They feel like it helps them play longer before the swelling kicks in. |
I used to play in a band with another trumpet player that did that. He would always get a little cup of ice that he'd keep the one mouthpiece in, chilling it like a bottle of champagne until he needed it. |
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Pete
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Pops wrote: | | Some players like to play on a cool mouthpiece and will have a couple of the exact same mouthpiece on stage and switch back and forth to keep that cool on the lips. They feel like it helps them play longer before the swelling kicks in. |
I will have to try this!
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Denny Schreffler
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[quote="Brad361"] | ljazztrm wrote: | | Wow..cool info Tony..thanks for sharing:-) You know, I know a few serious classical cats who have had the old Severinsen Jet-Tone duped into a different blank so people didn't know it was a Jet-Tone.. They just really dug the comfort of the old Jet-Tone rim and got a great classical sound out of that piece. Best, Lex |
| Quote: | I’m not questioning that, but really?? Is the classical world really that narrow
minded, that someone would need to disguise his mouthpiece? |
Not sure about the current climate with so many great mpc makers plying their trade and with major players using pieces other than Bach, but up to 15 or 20 years ago a non-Bach blank would invite scrutiny in certain sections.
Mark Curry began offering Bach blanks for his standard pieces to address the prejudice.
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RandyTX
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It's useful to have a Bach blank on a mouthpiece in an orchestra section, no matter what the insides are like, just to keep from having to answer 20 questions about your mouthpiece.
Stick a bach blank in the horn, and they suddenly don't ask anymore.
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