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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:46 pm    Post subject: Stripping lacquer from a flugelhorn Reply with quote

Hi all.

I would love to strip the lacquer from my flugelhorn. What is the safest and cleanest way to do this?

I have no experience stripping or replating.

I would keep the horn as raw brass.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aircraft strip/aircraft remover.

Down here in the US, we can buy it from the paint prep section of an auto parts store.

Paint the stuff on with a cheap (not plastic) paintbrush. One of those “chip brush“ types with the wooden handle and a puny bunch of natural bristles works great. Wear some chemical-resistant gloves and paint the stuff on according to the directions. Wait 15-20 minutes (do not let the stuff dry) and rinse the horn off well with water to neutralize the chemicals. You can use an old piece of T-shirt to rub off the remnants of the stripping goo. The directions say to use an abrasive (Scotch-Brite) pad. This will give your horn lots of scratches that you may or may not want. If you use a sturdy cloth (t-shirt) to rub the stuff off, it will not leave scratches. If you have any lacquer remaining, paint those areas again with the stripper.

If you use this chemical method of stripping, your horn should look fairly presentable after polishing with something like Flitz metal polish.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about leave it alone? The lacquer protects the horn from the environment and you.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use a methylene chloride based stripper, be sure to work in a very well ventilated area. You want to minimize your exposure and it happens to be one of the chemicals from which a respirator won't really give you significant protection. Wear the right gloves and eye protection too. Good luck with your project.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Stripping lacquer from a flugelhorn Reply with quote

fraserhutch wrote:
I have no experience stripping or replating.
I would keep the horn as raw brass.
You realize the tone and/or response might change, yes?
At least it did in my case, although I didn't do it myself.
I felt more comfortable sending it to a qualified tech...
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? If it is an older horn with traditionally sprayed thicker lacquer, instead of a newer horn with the micro-thin electro-epoxy lacquer, it may actually help the tone of the horn to get its darker signature tone.

And if it is the newer electro-epoxy lacquer, you aren't going to get it off, anyway, without major chemical surgery.

Let the horn tell its story, keep what is left of the lacquer on the horn in good shape, and enjoy playing instead of worrying about what the horn looks like.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VetPsychWars wrote:
How about leave it alone? The lacquer protects the horn from the environment and you.

Tom


Lacquer chips and fades, and I love raw brass. My main horn, a Scodwell, is raw brass and I love it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fraserhutch wrote:
VetPsychWars wrote:
How about leave it alone? The lacquer protects the horn from the environment and you.

Tom


Lacquer chips and fades, and I love raw brass. My main horn, a Scodwell, is raw brass and I love it.


If you're convinced, then the answer is "send it to your tech."

Ain't worth the hassle.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also depends upon the kind of lacquer used. The really old stuff will sometimes come off in a bathtub filled with hot water. That's not true with newer horns.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandyTX wrote:
It also depends upon the kind of lacquer used. The really old stuff will sometimes come off in a bathtub filled with hot water. That's not true with newer horns.

If the horn is the one in his signature it is a wild thing. So not the old stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LittleRusty wrote:
RandyTX wrote:
It also depends upon the kind of lacquer used. The really old stuff will sometimes come off in a bathtub filled with hot water. That's not true with newer horns.

If the horn is the one in his signature it is a wild thing. So not the old stuff.


Hmm....the Wild Thing flugel is not exactly a cheapie, no way would I try DIY lacquer removal.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad361 wrote:
LittleRusty wrote:
RandyTX wrote:
It also depends upon the kind of lacquer used. The really old stuff will sometimes come off in a bathtub filled with hot water. That's not true with newer horns.

If the horn is the one in his signature it is a wild thing. So not the old stuff.


Hmm....the Wild Thing flugel is not exactly a cheapie, no way would I try DIY lacquer removal.

Brad

Agreed. That said the OP had been around for a long while, so he probably is not some high school student wanting to be cool.

And he has some bucks tied up in his collection.

One thing he might consider is discussing it with Flip.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject: Stripping the lacquer off Reply with quote

I few years ago I found a trumpet that was painted with red lacquer ( I couldn't tell what make of trumpet it was). I used Lapages Lacquer remover and it turned out really great. Under the the paint was a Courtois Brevete about 1967 vintage. I live in Canada, not sure if you have the same product in the U.S.
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