When do you use D/Eb rotary trumpet?

tp2038 · Regular Member Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 97

I am curious to know which symphony or classical music requires D/Eb rotary trumpet.

Thanks.

Athos · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:43 am Post subject:

I can't think of anything for which smaller rotaries are required, but I can think of lots of literature which would be made easier by playing one of them. Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream overture and Chopin's first piano concerto come to mind, as well as several of the Beethoven symphonies.

Making music easier to play gives one more control over how it sounds. It allows a player to have greater control over dynamics and intonation, as well as, hopefully, improving accuracy.

Ultimately, we want to use the tools at our disposal to create the most beautiful and nuanced music we can.

I asked Susan once whether she'd rather I used a different trumpet for a piece we were playing. She told me I could play a Sears & Roebuck B-flat if I wanted to, and if it sounded good. It should always be about the sound, not the equipment, but sometimes the equipment can help the sound.

Kjell-Ake Andersson · New Member Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 10 Location: Denmark

I use an old Monke D when we are performing Brahms 2. symphony in order to make the ending easier to perform.
Beethoven 7. symphony is another piece if we are not using our Egger Natural trumpets. Depending of the Maestro.
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tubbs831 · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:29 am Post subject:

In a recent ITG where Michael Sachs talks about using different horns in orchestra he said he had a nice rotary D that he used for some Beethoven Symphonies, maybe 7 and 9. I don't have the journal at my disposal.

jvand678 · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:52 am Post subject:

I can't think of any organizations or works that might "require" a rotary D/Eb but some guys prefer their rotary D's on the bottom parts for the Bach and Handel works to sit beneath the piccs on top.
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Trompeter · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:36 am Post subject:

Schubert 1st symphony works good on a D-rotary with 'C-Klappe'.

Beside some Beethoven, Brahms and Haydn symphonies, an Eb/D rotary might help with parts of the Bartok Concerto, Mahler/Cooke 10, chorale at the end of Mahler 3.

Haydn No. 99 with 1st trumpet on Eb:

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Haydn Trumpet Concerto on Eb rotary - Hans-Peter Schuh (Vienna Phil):

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Donjon · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Posts: 567

I haven't heard the Haydn for some time and really enjoyed that video you post. Mov 1 was at break neck pace with some great moments with flowing lines, I was also pleasantly surprised to hear the bum notes.

Reassuring to know that this can happen, even at such a high level!
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hien peter · Veteran Member Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 307

Try a Weimann-Eb-rotrary - awfully good - you will love it eagerly,
try the cheap Weril-Eb - even better

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tptfrbrains · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:15 am Post subject:

I have a Thein 4 valve rotary D that they made for me, pretty much against their wishes, because they said it wouldn't be any good. With a 11.5mm bore, it's bigger than many C or B-flat trumpets.
It's fantastic. I've used it on Brahms 2, Beethoven 7 & 9, and many passages that just are hard on a C (there's a passage in the first mvt. of the Star Wars Suite that comes to mind).
My Weimann E-flat is simply the best E-flat I've ever played.

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Trompeter · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:44 am Post subject:

Tamás Velenczei (Berlin Phil.) on Lechner and Ricco Kühn Eb-trumpets during performances of Mahler 3rd Symphony and Strauss - 'Festmusik der Stadt Wien':

Bstradivarius · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:36 pm Post subject:

Haydn. I want one!
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Andy Del · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:29 am Post subject:

There is no such 'requirement' to use a particular pitch/valved instrument, per say. There are traditions, and some respect those traditions. Others fly in the face of them or do what they like out of sheer bloodymindedness. And, one may need to make such a choice in order to fit into a section.

Having a rotary D by Alexander with a very large throat, I have used it for Bach and Handel and in orchestral settings where a D can be used, like Pulcinella. Works a treat. That said, I could use a piston D trumpet to the same effect and not a single person in the audience wold have cared a whit...

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