• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Shoulder Injury



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Fundamentals
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ltkije1966
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1204
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject: Shoulder Injury Reply with quote

I dislocated my right shoulder. Does anybody have any experience or recommendations they might share? Has anybody been through this before?
_________________
Scott Kuehn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andy Del
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 1910
Location: sunny Sydney, Australia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I dislocated my left shoulder driving to a masterclass to be held by Phil Smith no less. Needless to say, I wasn't playing...

You would have had some medical treatment, and a referral to a specialist - most likely an orthopaedic surgeon. There needs to be a choice is there are torn tendons or ligaments - does it need a surgical repair? that will depend on exactly what is damaged.

In my case, the butcher I as referred to acted like such an ass I got very suspicious (as a 20 year old, try arguing with a medical specialist!) and sought another opinion, this time from a respected physiotherapist. His advice was exercises, and some weight training.

34 years later, my shoulder has popped out half a dozen times and I can reduce it myself. Hurts like a bugger, but I live with it no problems.

EVERYONE is different, so information, advice and then a decision needs to happen. I have friends who needed surgical procedures, and they to are happy. But they were in a different situation.

cheers

Andy
_________________
so many horns, so few good notes...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Comeback
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 22 Jun 2011
Posts: 1099

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had right shoulder issues for decades and sometimes experience discouraging discomfort when playing trumpet. When this occurs, switching to cornet provides enough relief for me to continue playing. Little things can make a difference. For me, just getting my right hand a little closer to my face, thus changing the angles in my right arm, helps.

Jim
_________________
a couple trumpets and a couple cornets
too many mouthpieces
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
boog
Veteran Member


Joined: 04 Jun 2014
Posts: 129
Location: West Tennessee

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My shoulder discomfort came from Bursitis developed by decades of using my arms to direct student ensembles in schools, all day long, in some situations. Trumpet playing added to the damage.

Now, at 70, I try to keep my arms and upper body in shape with weight training. Not that I am trying to appear in Mr. Olympia, but for daily comfort and mobility. I also strive to keep my weight down to somewhere around recommended for my height and age. I try to walk at least 2 miles a day, weather permitting. Had I done these things when younger, I would not be struggling with playing issues such as many my age have.

I still direct a band and play trumpet, cornet, euphonium, bass guitar, and six string guitar. Piano remains a mystery to me as it has been since I was a kid..

Point for you younger folks: physical fitness is not just cosmetic. You might live longer than you think!

As the old saying goes, "If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself".
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ltkije1966
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1204
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses. I tried the cornet, which was much more comfortable. I don’t think I can do it for more than an hour.

I’m going to look at some way to play left handed.
_________________
Scott Kuehn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cbtj51
Veteran Member


Joined: 24 Nov 2015
Posts: 213
Location: Deep South

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been very physically active most of my life. I started experiencing pain in my right shoulder after holding my trumpet and playing Congas for long periods when I was playing several times per week in a Top 40 band in the 90s. In early 2002, I lifted a very heavy refrigerator in a very wrong way and damaged my right Rotator Cuff badly. During the required Surgery, a benign cyst was uncovered in my shoulder joint and removed at the same time. Recovery with intense Physical Therapy took several months, but the planned exercises strengthened both of my arms and upper body so well that I experienced no pain for many years.

My previous level of physical activity is no longer possible, especially since having a pretty intense lower back surgery in 2007, but I still do as much as I can. Now, many years later, I am beginning to experience similar pain in my left shoulder. I am a lifelong left side sleeper and I am certain that adds to the pressure on my left side. As an alternate to a possible surgical procedure, I am taking advantage of my Trumpet and Flugelhorn stands at every opportunity, especially during long performances with lots of rests and tacits. I try to use my lightweight horns at every opportunity as well, and this seems to help. Avoiding any unneccessary stress on my left shoulder has all but eliminated the discomfort. Can't seem to eliminate my sleeping habits though and there are many current thinking patterns as to the health benefits of left side sleeping, so that will probably continue to add some stress on that shoulder.

As many others have stated, take care of your body as much as you can because it will eventually begin to wear out. Every mighty oak will one day fall!

Best wishes,

Mike
_________________
No reserve, No retreat, No regret. W W Borden

'71 LA Benge 5X Bb Trumpet
'76 & '98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorns
'76 Bach Strad CL 229/25A C Trumpet
'84 Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
2016 Bach Strad New York 7 Bb Trumpet
Reeves 41 Rimmed Mouthpieces
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bickz71
New Member


Joined: 18 Aug 2018
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's difficult and hard to get out of pain. My friend is suffering from tuberculosis. Cannot see her in pain and want her to recover as soon as possible. Taking treatment from private health care in out city. They are quite understanding and helpful. Providing medications and gels after acute observance.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cheiden
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 7063
Location: Orange County, CA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No experience with dislocation but I did suffer an acute and debilitating episode of frozen shoulder, which I'd never even heard of until I was diagnosed with it. In my case, a cortisone shot gave me just enough relief to undergo many weeks of painful physical therapy. While I got through it and recovered most of my range of motion, I certainly hope your recovery isn't quite as trying.
_________________
"I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Fundamentals All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group