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nonchalant Regular Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2017 Posts: 34
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:07 am Post subject: Parke Cups |
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Hey All,
Looking at getting a Parke mp (640 rim, 24 throat, Orchestral 24 bb) but need some help with the cup size.
275 1-1/2 depth
280
285 5B
I heard that parke cups are based off the 5B, but was looking at these cup options. What say you about these cups (combo with above)?
I am looking for something to use on my Bb first, 8345 Xeno, that I would likely use on C if it felt good still (Bach Artisian). My current mp is a Schilke Symphony M2X, and I find it dark, but can be a little dull on Bb, sometimes I use the M2* but its not quite what I want. |
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trompette229 Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2016 Posts: 203
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like the 275 cup would be a good place to start to get a full sound but some brilliance you're looking for. Keep in mind that the shape of all of them is the 5B (285) cup, they just vary in depth. |
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loudog Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2001 Posts: 1444 Location: Hastings, NE
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I REALLY like the 280 cup depth...it's perfect for me. I feel like regular C cups are too shallow for me, but B cups are a bit too deep...this one is perfect.
660-280-24 for me! _________________ -----------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Louie Eckhardt, trumpeter
http://www.LouieEckhardt.com
Associate Professor of Music
Hastings College |
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abontrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Haha, I REALLY like the 275. It's a great all around size that I use mainly for C trumpet. Sounds great on my Bb too. I'd start there since you're looking for Bb piece. 280 is plenty large so I'd go there for C if the 275 is too brilliant on C. I'm on a 655-275-24.
285 is a bit of a beast if you can manage it, great. I prefer a little more efficiency (maybe economy is the right word) in my front end set-up. |
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nonchalant Regular Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2017 Posts: 34
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I hear everyone REALLY likes them, hope I will too.
My experience sounds similar to Lou, I played on a 1-1/2 B for four years but eventually went to a 1-1/2C. Ive never loved the tone on a 1-1/2C, but did like the mp for overall purposes. Eventually I got into the Schilke Symphony series, and gravitated to the M2*, for a larger/opened up 1-1/2C, and the M2X to get something in between a B and C cup sound. Ive mostly played the M2X for the last 2 years.
Sounds like 275 and 280 should be up my alley. (could be a good excuse to try and buy both, lol) |
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O00Joe Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Houston & Austin, Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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You could always try the Stork Vacchiano line which are based on the same modified 5B cup idea for a good price!
For real though, does anyone have a complete chart of Parke's products? I've seen the ones on Facebook but I always see Parke parts for sale that aren't mentioned. _________________ 1981 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Laskey 60C
2003 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork Vacchiano 4C25C
2006 Bb/A Schilke Piccolo P5-4 silver - Reeves A adaptor - Stork SM SP6
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abontrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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O00Joe wrote: | You could always try the Stork Vacchiano line which are based on the same modified 5B cup idea for a good price!
For real though, does anyone have a complete chart of Parke's products? I've seen the ones on Facebook but I always see Parke parts for sale that aren't mentioned. |
There's this: https://www.facebook.com/parkemouthpiececenter/photos/a.847620185414203/849999691842919/?type=3&theater
But they pretty much never have everything in stock and seem keep up on the big sellers: 640-660 and 275-285 and mostly 24. That is how it seems at least! |
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TMT Regular Member
Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 73
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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FYI Parke is out of 640 components until possibly next month? Email Diane and ask her to keep you posted.
I'm currently playing a 645/285 and finding it much more brilliant than a my old 5B or 1.5B, just with a wide smoothness to the sound that spreads out in a large room. How much lip goes into the mouthpiece (by preference or just by the way your face is) is hugely personal and will determine a lot. If you haven't already, do yourself a huge favor and record yourself in the biggest room you can find. I thought the Parke was bright as hell until I did so and discovered that the sound mellows an the edge is taken off as it spreads. |
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Joshua712 Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:03 am Post subject: |
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24 throat is pretty large for a Bb. Works fine on C. But can be problematic on Bb horn - especially since you mention darkness and dullness on Bb. 26 throat on Bb would be well worth considering _________________ JPS |
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jaysonr Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Mar 2015 Posts: 797 Location: Conway, NC
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I've really liked the 275-V cup...wish I'd kept mine, honestly. It has a more open throat entrance, and overall the cup reminds me of a 1-1/4C Mt. Vernon. _________________ Isaiah 40:8
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